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  what a diehard replies if the phrase "brainwashing" is used

  by stillajwexelder in

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  i have heard quite a few witnesses when confronted with "you are brain-washed" merely reply " well in satans world, my brain was so bad it needed washing, so i am glad i got brain-washed" - difficult when one is confronted with an attitude like that

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  TallTexan

  The problem is they think that true 'brainwashing' is done with lights and sounds (like in "A Clockwork Orange"). They don't understand that true brainwashing is simply repetition mixed with emotional input until you eventually spout the right response even if you're not sure why or even if you can't explain it, as many dubs can't. My grandmother is classic - she says stuff like "Well, I don't really understand it either, but I just know it's right" - this after 60 years as a witness.....if that's not brainwashing, I don't know what is.
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  Pol Pots Paradise

  by ballistic in

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  don't know if anyones mentioned this before, but i found it scary reading the site below about pol pots attempt to create an agrarian utopia.

  scary because there are similarities between what dubs would need to do to create paradise and what he did.. http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/pol_pot.htm.

  from the link above:.

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  I agree w/ Ozzie. This relates to a post a few days (weeks?) ago about whether or not the org would kill apostates if they had the chance. I think they would, and rationalize it with the OT stories of God destroying those who were 'disloyal'. Some of the similarities are a little bit of a stretch, but I think the overall thought process is very similar. All totalitarian governments try to remove all remnants of the 'old' (putting on the 'new' personality, in JW lingo), sever all ties with anything they deem 'unfit', 'remove' (in one way or another) all those who disagree, and attempt to control every aspect of that person's life. So there are definite similarities. What you have to ask yourself is, how far would the FDS go if there were no laws to limit their actions?
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  "A Global Problem: Fraud" {from the pages of the WT org}

  by sf in

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  http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2004/7/22/article_01.htm [scroll down a bit].

  {at times, i'm astounded at the amount of steel in the balls of the wt men...[ slaps knee silly ]...these are their words!

  can they really be this blind as to not see how it is describing wtbts empire??

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  The next article will explain ways in which you can protect yourself from fraud.

  The next article should say "Quick, get out of the WT".....

  I don't know if they are bold or just plain stupid. I think they've been telling themselves these lies for so long that they really don't see that they are describing themselves.....
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  Something I wonder.......

  by DaveNwisconsin in

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  a month ago my mother died.

  she had been a witness for 40 years.

  when she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death?

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  TallTexan

  Funchback,

  You and I are the same age, and what you wrote about feeling you would never reach certain milestones could have been written in my words. And I too believed that all the presidents would be the 'one' to turn against religion, especially when 1986 (I believe it was) was declared the "Year of Peace & Security" or whatever it was called. I remember at our summer assembly when we were told that the next year was being declared as such by Reagan, I got a chill because I really felt that it was going to be the end. I remember my mom saying on a number of occasions that "Well, next year we'll probably be celebrating Memorial underground."

  It really screws up your view of the future and the importance you place on being prepared for it....
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  Something I wonder.......

  by DaveNwisconsin in

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  a month ago my mother died.

  she had been a witness for 40 years.

  when she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death?

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  TallTexan

  Gary,

  That's a great argument, and one that will, as in your example, be sure to stump JW's the world over....
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  Jesus condemns the wt

  by Satanus in

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  jws always throw the challenge that no other religions preach door to door.

  however, they forget what jesus said about feeding and clothing poor people.

  many churches give away food, clothes, fridges, stoves, vouchers.

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  Good point Satanus. It always killed me how the JWs condemned the Salvation Army, a religion that gives to the poor, yet these same JWs had no qualms about buying cheap suits from the SA. Hypocrits....

  Lol...I've always said the same thing. They will not support (in fact, it is a df'ing offense to support ) the Salvation Army or the Red Cross, but I'll betcha that JW's in New Orleans would have gladly accepted support or supplies from them. How is that right? Good post Satanus. The JW's twist the 'do good towards all, but especially those in the faith" as they twist all scriptures. For one thing, they forget all about the 'do good to all' part. Aside from preach, they would rarely lift a finger towards those 'not of the faith', regardless of their need. And I know from personal experience after personal experience that they will rarely lift a finger to help those IN the faith unless they can count time for it somehow. What a crock - but remember, they are 'known by their love for one another'....how I want to puke every time I hear those words....
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  My last meeting

  by PoppyR in

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  so last night we had the last book study at our house, next week all the congregations change around and i asked for it to be moved.

  so i sat in on it, and afterwards we had a bit of a 'party'.

  felt quite emotional really, although i haven't answered for a long time i put my hand up to read a scripture just so i could mark the last time i did this.

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  Excellent that you got away. Take a deep breath, and don't look back (remember Lot's wife....lol).

  The elder taking the group, (who I dearly love) said it was discipline and the person had to learn,

  I always understood that it was supposed to 'keep the congregation clean'. ;-) Yet this is truly how many witnesses feel. Show me one place in the Bible that supports this. Of course, we know the whole DF'ing thing is un-scriptural, but even by their own standards and beliefs, it is not supposed to be 'discipline' - even though that's exactly what it turns out to be.......
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  Apostates and Slacker Dubs Commit the Unforgivable Sin

  by gumby in

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  if your not too rusty with dub teachings, you remember that to commit the unforgivable sin, you had to deny the holy spirits begetting you.

  it would be like one of the annointed purposely saying................ "i don't want to worship jehovah anymore nor have any part of him or his son inspite of the fact he annointed me".. in christendom, it is likewise a denial of the spirit when you know it's for real.

  !...one day freddy franz got so pissed at apostates and slacker dubs, he decided he was gonna write a watchtower article and kick some major ass!

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  There will be hundreds of thousands of window cleaners as well!

  There is no doubt the 'New Order' will be clean - lots of janitors and lots of clean windows....lol....
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  Russell/Barbour connection

  by SWALKER in

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  a family member is searching for the original book "the three worlds" and sent me the following info:.

  three worlds, or, plan of redemption, and, the harvest of this world.. .

  published by nelson h. barbour and charles taze russell.

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  Russell knew Tiki Barber???? <sorry, little NFL humor there>
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  My problem w/ evolution vs. creationism

  by TallTexan in

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  i personally don't care what anyone else believes.

  i believe that there is a creator that created the heavens and earth.

  i believe that it occurred over a period much longer than 7 literal days.. here's my problem.

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  That is a wrong assertion; if you look into your history books you'll see very few cases when majority of people had right view of things. In dark ages majority believed inquisition was necessary to root out witches, majority believed earth was flat, etc. It was always minority of people who had special knowledge of anything more advanced not majority.

  That is a good point, however, the views that most people had to begin with were propagated by scientists of their day. Science is wrong as often as it's right. I can point to dozens of instances where the 'brilliant' thinkers of the day, who were right on some things, were just as wrong on others

  Let's keep this going...this is fun.....