That's funny. We are fewer in number, that proves we have god's blessing
::::chuckling to self:::::
That just struck me so funny.
LOL
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Is It Me Or Are There A Ton Of New Posters On This Month???
by minimus ini've been on a mini vacation and lately i've seen mostly "newbies" posting.
this place changes sooo quickly, it's amazing!!!
i'm glad to see the "great crowd's" influx here.
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Lend me your Apostapowers, trying to help someone out of the org
by wanderlustguy inok, i'm finally starting some dialogue with my brother, i've let him know that i have questions that no one can answer, and he says to send them over so he can either answer them or get answers, and that no question is disallowed or "apostate".
he sent me an article (from 08.15.04 wt, thanks blondie!
) via e-mail, on which i pointed out one simple question on reply to him, which he has replied to.
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dorayakii
True is not the correct word here. All statements cannot possibly be true seeing how we are imperfect humans who can't see past our own noses.(jer 10:23) Honest would be a more accurate term.
Then the troof shouldn't be called "the truth"... it should be called "the honesty"...
" How long have you been in the honesty?... Were you born in the honesty?"......
...... sorry
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Explosions London Buses & Trains
by Crumpet ini can';t get through to any of my friends at liverpool street including my ex.
am really worried!
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Dorayakii: i cannot justify the plain words written there in the Holy Qu'ran telling people to kill...
Abaddon: Judging from what else you say I'm sure you'll agree that equivalently violent action following god's commands in the Bible (as seen by those doing it) are equally unjustifiable.
Yes, i do. I'm absolutely appalled by the Israelite conquest of Canaan and have been ever since i was a child. I'm apalled by the millions of animals slaughtered to appease a bloodthirsty "God" named Jehovah/YHWH... and i'm just as appalled by Mohamad's bloody conquest of Mecca when he brought his army back to Medina.
Anyone can claim that they're doing something because of a religion, and then others will say "oh, its not because they are part of that religion why it happens", but the fact is, it still goes on, and they find excuses in their Holy books.
For an example to show how my reasoning is not biased, the thing that most appalls me about my former religion, Jehovah's Witnesses, is that they protect paedophiles. Does this mean that they literally protect them, going out of their way to preach protection of paedophiles? Obviously no. Does it mean that there are no good people in that religion? Obviously no, but the fact is i hate that religion, the Watchtower, because of policies that allow these things to happen. In the same way i hate Islam for being a root of the many terrorism attacks that occur. However, i don't hate individual Muslims, just as i don't hate individual JWs, and would never do any thing to physically or psychologically hurt another human being, whatever their beliefs are.
I think from now on, in order to show that i'm not racist or prejudiced, i'm going to have to accompany any negative comments about Islam and the Qu'ran with a parallel example about Christianity and the Bible.
Preston: I think what happened in London today is a good example for us to follow. I know what happened today but you pulled yourself up and the day went on. Whoever did these bombings failed in their purpose. I don't think you're new to this, weren't you guys badly hit during the IRA campaign?
Yes, we are "used" to terrorist attacks in a certain way, but nothing prepares you for having to go through it as an individual.
The last terrorist attacks we had from the IRA were in 1996 when the IRA broke their 1994 cease-fire, by exploding a bomb in London's Docklands (where our highest buildings are located)... one of the windows in my house fell out because of the blast, and i live 3 miles (4.5 km) from the Docklands...
... a week later a bomb exploded in Aldwych, Central London, then in the next few months, bombs exploded in a pedestrian retail area in Manchester and at an army base in Northern Ireland.. The IRA then graciously declared another cease-fire in 1997 when Tony Blair was elected and his negotiations and non-Conservative policies have so far made sure that we haven't experienced another big attack from the IRA.
I regulary take the Circle line at Aldgate at the particular hour the bombs went off yesterday so i'm infinitely grateful that i wasn't directly affected by the attacks. (Over-sleeping does have its virtues)... My heart goes out to all my fellow Londoners who had to directly go throught the events of '7-7' and by retropective extention to those still affected by losses from '9-11' and the Madrid bombings.
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We are Jehovah's Winess
by Evanescence innow you all probebly puked all over the moniter reading the the thread topic .
here is a website to haunt ya all!
http://d21c.com/ljesun/song113.html.
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dorayakii
I thought u meant "Jehovah's Winers"...
That's a horrible ego-cnetric song that. I never enjoyed singing it even when i was mentally captive to the WTS
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AWAKE!, Watchtower," and Book titles that lie
by gumby in"good news for all mankind".
"the bible - a book for all mankind".
all of these title make it sound as if the world in general will oneday experience these things and not to worry.. the fact of the matter is.....jehovah's witnesses don't believe this at all.
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dorayakii
Isaiah's Prophecy, Light for All Mankind - Isaiah's Prophecy, New Light for R&F JWs
Mankind's Search for God - Mankind's Search for the WBTS
The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived - ...... (Not gonna comment on this one just in case there are some real Christians out there, I love y'all "reel Kris-chins", *muah*)
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Is Intelligent Design self-refuting ?
by hooberus in.
some critics (here) of intelligent design theories claim that it is "self-refuting" to invoke design and / or complexity, as evidence for an intelligent designer explanation for things such as the origin of life, other complex biological structures, etc.
since this claim comes up somewhat frequently, i thought it should be given its own thread.
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dorayakii
Here is also a good site with an overview
(Putting my little 2 pence in)... i saw this programme on BBC2 it was quite good to help the "lay-person" get to grips with string theory and M-theory... he animation was cool too...
dorayakii of the "too-early-to-discuss-quantum-physics" class
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Explosions London Buses & Trains
by Crumpet ini can';t get through to any of my friends at liverpool street including my ex.
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I'm so upset, i was crying about an hour ago... when it happened to New York it was sooo far away... Now its on our dorrstep... i remember the IRA bomb in 1996, that was so close it shook out one of our windows, and we're several miles away from the Docklands... its just too close... why do they do things like this to normal citizens???
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Explosions London Buses & Trains
by Crumpet ini can';t get through to any of my friends at liverpool street including my ex.
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You may be reading the Quran but it is obvious that you do not understand it. Christians and Jews are not unbelievers. They are not considered infidels. All 3 religions worship the same god. They are not idolators. BTW, I've read the Quran too. I even went one step further: I consulted with Muslims to help me understand their interpretation of the scriptures you've quoted. May I suggest you do the same? Robyn
Yes i have done that with many muslims from different perspectives, but i just cannot agree with the explanations and i cannot justify the plain words written there in the Holy Qu'ran telling people to kill...
I didn't once say that Christians and Jews were included as "unbelievers"... does that mean that its alright to kill bhuddists, pagans and atheists, as avi said??
I'm open minded but i doubt if any more commentaries or explanations of the scriptures that i quoted can allow a statement like "Kill the f**king b*stards" to be interpreted as the rosy "Freedom and equality for all humans" its just not possible, im sorry
I haven't seen the above groups being attacked lately, have you? And since Jews and Xtians aren't infidels
All i was trying to point out was the scriptures that gave them an excuse to carry out this carnage... All sorts of people were in the buildings when 9/11 happened, jews, christians, atheists, buddhists even muslims... i'm sure it was the same with Madrid and the same with London... does it matter that people are part of a religion or not if they die???
I don't give a flying f**k who is an infidel and who is a believer... when one group is attacked we are all attacked, we must stand up against intolerance and terrorism whether if its by an al-qaeda-led jihad or a western-politician-led "crusade".
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OK, I was just confused, so I thought it was best to clarify.
I think it was his name "freak" that confused ya classy, lol... i was just a bit annoyed that he was chatting &£#% and obviously about what happened up in town...
I can't wait to get home to my own bed and mr crumpet and have a little cry.
Hang in there Crumpet, i'm with you in spirit
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Was that towards me? Perhaps I should clarify *historically* (as in, when it first started). Just as Christianity was an essential part of 19th century colonialism. Don't be so reactionary or easily offended.
I fully agree with what you're saying classicist... the comment wasn't directed at you my friend... i read the whole of the Qu'ran when i was a dub, scouring it in order to prove a Muslim return-visit wrong. It didn't take much scouring... It is a book of violence and murder, on par or even worse than the Bible... These quote are all from my own personal copy of the Qu'ran...Before Muhammad came to power he wrote:
"To you be your religion, and to me my religion" (Unbelievers [109] : 6)
"There is no compulsion in religion" (The Cow [2] : 256)
When he had amassed a sizable army at Medina he returned to Mecca and wrote:
Drive the infidels (footnote: unbelievers) out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is more grievous a sin than bloodshed. (The Cow [2] : 191)
Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. murder them and treat them harshly (Repentance [9] : 123)
Strike off the heads of (unbelievers) you meet in the battlefield, after you have made a wide slaughter of them, carefully bind the remaining captives (Muhammad [47] : 3)
When the sacred months are over, fight and slay the Pagan idolaters, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in ambush for them in every location. If they repent and trake to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful" (Repentance [9] : 5).
