Jim,
Enjoyed your post - I wish you the best. Take care of your health and hopefully we'll see ya back here sometime in the future.
Regards,
Jason
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Last Post - My Most Painful Public Confession
by Amazing inmy most painful confession
note to simon: i will use some expletives, but i hope that they will be retained as this is intended to be an otherwise civil and thoughtful post to all my fellow ex-jws.
please read on, as this is most painful.
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WTS bans American football for "true"...
by ozziepost inin a magazine article, the wts has warned the r&f dubs that going to the football this new year is "pagan" and is engaging in a "false religious festival".. to support this teaching, the wts quotes from the encyclopedia britannica:"football games in the u.s. have all the external trappings of religious festivals .
one side representing evil and the other good, depending upon the viewpoint of the members of the audience.
leading the congregation are the priestesses (cheerleaders) .
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Garrett Losch (sp?) gave a Morning Worship discussion one morning on American Football and how violent it is. However he didn't reference this article - you'd think a GB member would read all of his magazines from cover to cover like a good little witness - or at least research such info before giving a morning worship lecture about it. Instead he just talked about the violence displayed and "being caught up in the spirit of the world" blah-blah-blah. His message was basically a "true" christian would not watch or participate in American football because of the violent nature of the sport. This further contributed to my existing doubts - I mean.....here they are trying to control EVERYTHING we do! I couldn't believe it - now Bethelites had this moral obligation to uphold these righteous words of the GB, but most of us (at least the guys I knew) pretty much disregarded the whole thing. This was one of the things that led to me leaving Bethel though - I felt that I should never disregard the words of a GB member - it was quite evident he was rambling off at the mouth about his personal feelings. I'm sure there's probably been article's about violent sports, and it's possible football was mentioned (I don't have WT CD-ROM) but the articles never said not to watch or play football, just to be on gaurd of the spirit it invokes. Whateveeerrrrrrrr.....I just got tired of all the control mechanisms - to me life isn't supposed to be like that, and I don't appreciate people trying to control every facet of my life and mental process.
Good riddance.
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George Bush most admirable male??!!
by back2dafront inhttp://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired
the associated press.
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Freeman,
Someone that has not memorized all the rules that applies to USA legislature and voting is not ignorant or unintelligent.
If it works like you say it does, why the hell do people vote to begin with? All this time and energy goes into getting the people to vote, and their votes have no significance whatsoever?
I'm thoroughly confused now. Just the fact that the whole system is so screwy should tell you something IMO - it shouldn't be this difficult to elect a President for pete's sake. To me it sounds like it's purposely set up to be rigged in someone's favor if it comes down to it. This is one subject I'll admit I don't understand all the deets on - I'll have to put it on the list of future studies...
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George Bush most admirable male??!!
by back2dafront inhttp://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired
the associated press.
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My guess is that instead of coming out admitting he's wrong, he'll just let the subject die.
that's been my experience in the past at least.
Face up or run away, one takes balls, the other takes a lack of. Seperates the men from the boys.
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George Bush most admirable male??!!
by back2dafront inhttp://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired
the associated press.
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Realist,
right on - i could agree with ya. A reason I like Jolie is cuz she's active in charity organizations and such. She seems like a really cool individual besides being incredibly sexy, which is a rarity amongst the Hollywood persona. A friend of mine met "Chandler" from Friends at a ski resort and he constantly tried to get her in bed. She's a lesbian and told him such and he still felt that was no reason she shouldn't. She ended up cussing him out and walking away because he was such a self-centered, egotiscal moron. There are others too...like Dick Clark, which you see first hand on Michael Moores' documentary Bowling for Columbine.
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George Bush most admirable male??!!
by back2dafront inhttp://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired
the associated press.
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one more Aztec fan right here, btw. :-)
you're one cool chic, g/f.
cheers!
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George Bush most admirable male??!!
by back2dafront inhttp://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired
the associated press.
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Francois,
You're evidence that Rebublicans are a cult.
Pettygrudger,
hahhaha...J-Lo is cool and all, but there's more to admire in Halle Berry to me. And Angelina Jolie. Realistically though, I think I'd vote for someone like the Venus Williams....now we're talking pure talent.
Celia,
I saw a book at the bookstore full of quotes from Bush that make no sense whatsoever or exemplify him slaughtering the English language. It's embarrassing yet hilarious!
Reborn,
Right on dude. Excellent research - thanks for bringing out those points. I saw a bumber sticker that said:
BUSH CHEATED
HAHAHHAHA
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George Bush most admirable male??!!
by back2dafront inhttp://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired
the associated press.
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http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146
Poll: Bushes, J. Lo Among Most Admired
The Associated Press
Dec 28 2002 3:30PM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton, Laura Bush and J. Lo have something in common: Americans like them.A Gallup poll found the nation divided in the contest for ``most admired'' woman. Among men, President Bush remained the clear favorite for the second year in a row.
Clinton, the former first lady who now represents New York in the Senate, and her successor in the White House, Laura Bush, topped Gallup's list of women along with talk show host Oprah Winfrey. Clinton was favored by 7 percent of those surveyed; Bush and Winfrey had 6 percent each.
Among men, the president had a commanding 28 percent for men - well ahead of the runner-up, former president Jimmy Carter who was in single digits.
Jennifer Lopez's new movie and album, along with heavy media coverage of her pending wedding nuptials to actor Ben Affleck, boosted her to the sixth spot with 2 percent. That put her on par with incoming Sen. Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice. Former first lady Barbara Bush and former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher each got 3 percent.
Among younger respondents, Lopez outpolled them all with 10 percent.
Party lines had some bearing on results. Clinton pulled 15 percent among Democrats; the first lady led among Republicans, with 13 percent. They remain no match for Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, who won 60 percent of Americans' vote in 1963 following her husband's assassination.
President Bush had earned 39 percent in the wake of last year's terrorist attacks, a record high among men since the survey began in 1948. His dip in Gallup's 2002 poll mirrors his sliding approval ratings over the last several months.
Events also pushed up Carter's standing, with the recent Nobel Peace Prize winner rising from just 1 percent in 2001. He was the favorite among Democrats polled.
Secretary of State Colin Powell, Pope John Paul II, former President Bill Clinton and the Rev. Billy Graham each earned 2 to 4 percent.
The telephone survey of 1,009 adults was conducted Dec. 16-17 and has a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Respondents were asked to name the two people they admire most.
Only one man, Academy Award winning actor Denzel Washington, from the entertainment world made it into the men's top-10. He rounded out that list along with former South African President Nelson Mandela, former Vice President Al Gore and former President Reagan.
Poet Maya Angelou and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright also made the top-10 women's list.
On the Net:
The Gallup Organization: http://www.gallup.com
He wasn't even elected by the people, I don't see how they'd vote him most admirable male of the year. I would've voted for Michael Moore. Then Antonio Banderas for being in such hot scenes w/ Angelina Jolie in Original Sin. :-)
Edited by - back2dafront on 28 December 2002 17:25:42
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Jesus Sacrifice - How Stupid and Illogical
by MrMoe injesus dying for our sins... um, why.. because adam made a mistake?
based upon what?
jehovah's rules?
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These folks clearly don't want to have anything to do with God, they hate Him and everything that represents Him.
They do not want to be saved. That is their choice.
They do not want to go to heaven. That is their choice.
Wait a sec, buddy. Personally, if God appeared right now and explained his purpose and basically made Himself known, I'd do whatever I could to please Him. So an "unbeliever" does not automatically fall into all the categories you mention above.
It's hard for me to grasp the concept of the God in the Bible, but that doesn't mean I don't believe. I'm just waiting for the time to come when all will be known - then I'll know for sure what and how to believe. Just seems to make more sense to me that way, instead of trying to interpret writings that are claimed to be inspired by God, but knowing mankind has been deceiving since day 1....
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New York New York
by SixofNine in.
six and fosl (the fruit of six's loins) will be visiting nyc between dec 27 and jan 1 (fosl's b-day present).. please share your thoughts on where to go, what to see, what to do.. i'd love to meet up with any nyc apostates as well.
contact me via e-mail if you're interested.
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I'm sorry, but I don't think there's anything wrong at all with wanting to see Ground Zero. I used to live in NYC and haven't been back there since 9/11, but one of these days I will return and will definitely go by to see it. People go see Pearl Harbor - people visit the Holocaust musuem(s) as well - it's not disrespectful at all - it's getting able to see the location of a tragic, historical event, that's all. That's not disrespectful IMO. I can definitely see how people could be offended by others visiting the site, but all I can say is that I would hope visitors would understand that fact and not be laughing and joking around while there. That sort of conduct would easily offend a person who lost a loved one or is just a New Yorker who saw it all happen.