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  Why do you qoute dictionaries when making a point in a discussion?

  by Pole in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've noticed a lot of people cut and paste dictionary entries when making a point in a discussion.

  how do dictionaries help you get the message across?

  do they make you sound more authoritative?

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  Pole

  I've noticed a lot of people cut and paste dictionary entries when making a point in a discussion.
  
  Why do you do it?
  
  How do dictionaries help you get the message across? Which ones do you use and why?
  Do they make you sound more authoritative?
  
  My impression is dictionaries are of little or no avail in philosophical discussions. It's easy to fall prey to one fallacy or another if you depend on them too much.
  
  Pole
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  The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

  by Pole in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

  make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

  english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

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  Pole

  LOL @ Gumby the Futurologist.
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  The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

  by Pole in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

  make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

  english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

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  Pole

  seattleniceguy,

  That sounds pretty realistic.

  myelaine,

  You'd have difficulties finding a producer for this one. Well, on second thoughts, it might make a story for a new sequel of Conan the Barbarian:

  

  Pole
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  The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

  by Pole in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

  make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

  english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

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  Pole

  LOL at JustTickled. Although they could just introduce a few changes in the blood policy, like "the blood of some animals is now acceptable".

  The few that did get the shot, live and finally are free.

  You mean the Governing Body when they finaly decide blood is acceptable?

  Brenda,

  I guess what you're describing could be called the Inverse of Armageddon.

  Take good heed of metatron's test everyone:

  The critical moment of change comes when many Witnesses start to criticize the Society openly.

  Pole
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  The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

  by Pole in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

  make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

  english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

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  Pole

  metatron,

  Watch for evidence that THEY KNOW what they teach is bogus.

  Do you mean evidence in their publications?
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  The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

  by Pole in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

  make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

  english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

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  Pole

  lisa,

  http://home.cfl.rr.com/mmeara/behind.jpg

  hillbilly,

  a young 4th gen JW on the Brooklyn Legal staff. Flashback to first the Russel era, then the Rutherford and Knorr era's showing how his grandfather's, uncles, and father became "made" men.

  The WT Forefathers! Lol.

  Bluesbrother,

  These two are really good:

  they are forced to pay damages to the Church of England

  A disastrous move to put the study article on-line for the flock to print it themselves, has resulted in cross reference Google searches and the r & f can quickly check up on the truth of what they say [607 bce had to hastily revised]

  Metatron,

  The critical moment of change comes when many Witnesses start to criticize the Society openly.

  A moment of truth indeed. Just picture all those individual witnesses and entire branch offices sending letters to the Brooklyn HQ in which they actually demand that some things be changed and not just ask meekly what they should think.

  liz2cool

  an elaborate money laundering business whose clients include drug cartels, white slavers, and arms dealers

  I guess a few scenes could be shot in the Columbian branch office :).

  Pole
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  The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

  by Pole in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

  make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

  english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

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  Pole

  Hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the Watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin? Make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.

  Here's two scenarios to begin with. English is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.

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  A criminal-conspirational scenario:

  Year 2005.

  There is a bunch people in the Legal/Accounting Department who have seen how the organization deals with certain issues and who are monitoring 'apostate' sources such as this board. They have grown cynical over the years. Because they control money coming in and out to dozens of countries all over the world, some of those in-charge of financial matters discover possibilities of defrauding a few percent here and there and succumb to the temptation... They use creative accounting to tart up the figures but in a few years' time it turns out the WTS is flat broke. It may be happening as you are reading these very words!!

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  A not so criminal scenario:

  Year 2008.

  The old-time GB members have little if any control over the financial workings of the WTS and as they grow older, their influence is gradually diminishing. Recently they also delegated their legal responsibilities to "the other sheep". The corporation has hundreds of millions of dollars of annual income and billions in shares and real estate. The FDS finally disappears and there's no legitimate heir to the theological throne. There's new light which exaplains it away to the r&f, but there's also billions of bucks up for grabs behind the doctrinal scenes... The other sheep reshuffle the financial priorities of the org because they think nobody is going to tell them: "Hold on this is not what Jehovah told me yesterday in a dream." The effect is millions of rank and file are stumbled and start questioning the new light about the new WTS leaders. Finally there's a split up with a few branch offices starting their own national churches and discrediting each other.

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  Yeah, right. Now what's your vision?

  Pole
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  What does the Watchtower gain...

  by homme perdu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  by recruiting new members,expanding.

  is it money?

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  I wouldn't say it's only about money. Is there any evidence of a WT official raking in millions in personal income?
  
  
  I guess it's a bit like with most politicians in Western countries where corruption is too easy to detect. They don't make millions as presidents or prime ministers. Many actually neglect their multi-million businesses when they get elected. What they gain is a feeling of self-fulfilment, power, influence and a page in history books.
  
  
  Gary,
  
  Good points. I like your assessment of the WTS and your favourite analogy. From an outside perspective WTS really seems to be what you say it is: a big publishing enterprise whose sole purpose is to increase circulation.
  
  
  The difference is that in a regular publishing corporation, most employees and executives know the real purpose of their company while in the WTS you may devote your entire life to the business for some imaginary reasons.
  
  
  Most mission statements in big corporations reflect their real intentions to some degree. Of course money is the driving force, but that's to obvious anyone, isn't it?
  
  
  The mission statement of the WTS corporation which you read and sign on becoming a witness (baptism questions) is a BIG LIE.
  
  
  Pole
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  I need three good questions!

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  if it were possible to get a jw to actually listen to us, which three good questions do you reckon might get him/her to sit down and think?

  ian

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  1) Name one bible prophecy which applies to our times. Explain why you think it applies to our times.
  
  
  2) Name one bible prophecy which was uniquely understood and preached by JWs and which has been fulfilled in our times.
  
  
  3) Is it true that at least a few annointed JWs have to remain "available" when Gog of Magog attacks the only true religion on Earth before Armageddon? If so, then what will you say when the FDS disappears and nothing happens? Who will you trust as God's sole channel of communication, should the annointed Christians disappear in the next few years? How will you know who you should trust, if the only "bible-based" intermediary will have been gone by then?
  
  
  (The last one should make them think in the next few years as they start receiving new light. I mean, they might think "how did an appostate know something that Jehovah only lets his people know after a few years?").
  
  
  Pole
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-19-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 12-19-04 wt study (november 15, 2004 issue)

  review comments

  will be in black and parentheses ().

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  Pole

  You're right, Blondie. I knew you were just playing with their labels (every totalitariansm has its own set of them).
  
  Ok, let them have their "pure speech". But just as organized religion is no longer "a snare and a racket", maybe it's time Jehovah shed some new light on the term "Christendom" as well? Wouldn't it make a great WT study?
  
  I'm not sure why I'm being so fussy about it, so please ignore me. :))
  
  PS
  
  Great link!