4. Jesus is countless billions of years old...and one day we will be as old as Jesus is now, and he'll only be twice our age.
I don't get this one. Can anyone explain it to me please?
Pole
not sure if this is a "made up" email or not -- sounds like any other talk you've ever heard..... .
>a talk recently given by brother guy pierce ... .
>safeguard your spirituality by training your perceptive powers .
4. Jesus is countless billions of years old...and one day we will be as old as Jesus is now, and he'll only be twice our age.
I don't get this one. Can anyone explain it to me please?
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
So why the first response?
Exactly. Because it's the WTS who demonized the UN not the "apostates". Cognitive dissonance. An emotional problem. I think I'm repeating myself. :-)))
Welcome to the forum, BTW.
Pole
is it that it's all a joke, a smokescreen?
is it all about 'just do for us and expect nothing in return'?
is it that they really don't care about anything but their property and their real estate?
the kingdom halls are paid for by the local witnesses, and when its paid off, its donated back to the WT Society, What an elaborate scheme!!!
Not sure if that's the case in the US as well, but that's not the end of the story here. Actually the full cycle is this:
1) The congo donates to the KH construction fund
2) The congo collects extra funds to build their own KH and they may have to take a loan from the WTS to finance other costs (the loan is possible thatnks to the construction fund the congregation partly contributed to).
3) The congo works for free to build the KH
4) When the construction is finished the congo finally has it's own KH, right? Wrong. They have to cede it to the WTS.
5) They also have to start paying off the loan.
6) They also have to maintain the Hall. It's their hall after all, isn't it?
7) After they've paid off the loan, they continue contributing to the KH construction fund.
:)
Now how many times have they paid for the Hall without ever buying it?
Go figure.
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
I find it interesting that lots appear to be jumping upon this thread to comment. Maybe we are simply defending our own ideologies?
ElBlanko,
Think about it for a while. Saying I believe the JW's may be right is in a way tantamount to saying I believe Russel and Franz are now heavenly kings who may personally destroy you and the rest of your apostate family (if you happen to have any) in the battle of Armageddon. Now, what's wrong with me?
That's still fine by me if I'm shown a shred of evidence to discuss. So far I haven't seen any. The guy says it was the apostates who claimed the UN was bad. If he has read all those sourcess he claims to have read, then he must realize he's being hypocritical or a manipulative - just like a few weeks ago when he started a thread about WT supposedly going monthly in the hope of fooling a few "blinded apostates".
That's why people are pissed off by this thread. And that's what this thread is all about. So you're right to an extent. But you must also understand those who don't like being told they'll be destroyed by Ted Jaracz.
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
If covorting with the UN is so bad - then what about the Witnesses being registered as a charity in Britain?
Where's your argument again?
Pole
heroes and villains for the braindead.
in a typical action movie, suspense movie or western, there are only heroes and villains.
the heroes can do nothing but good and the villains can do nothing but bad.
Neo,
Thanks for bringing me up to date with Farkels WTS lexicon. ;-). That explains a lot.
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
kls,
and i feel you are toying with us for a reaction.
Absolutely, just look at his topic history. The guy loves this little trollish game of seeking for attention even if this means posting lies, urm, I mean deceptive threads.
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
Just as I thought. Now we'll be discussing five different topics on a single thread.
Slimboyfat will get a lot of attention and climax quietly after stepping down to the den of lions and managing to maintain his mental "integrity" (trying to be nice here).
I still think it might be the truth - what is wrong with me?
Isn't the original question self-explanatory?
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
slimboyfat,
Just what is your argument again?
If you have no arguments to make, and no issues to discuss, then you must have an emotional problem. Asserting you have no problem accepting WTS hypocrisy is not an argument, just like asserting one has no problem with a totalitarian state is not an argument in favour of the Soviet Union.
THe only reason you started this thread was to seek attention, because you have an emotional problem.
Prove me wrong by stating your argument. BTW, enumerating five issues at the same time which most of us all know too well has nothing to do with stating an argument.
So with no argument to make.... But that's not your purpose, is it? You'll get lots of responses from people who find WTS stupidity offensive. And you're goal will thus be accomplished, won't it?
Pole
apostate literature - i have read the lot.
you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.
and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.
No offence sbf, but I think you might be one of those people who take pride in being resistant to the truth about the truth. You have quite a community there: Schizm, scholar, joker10 and a friend in need are your buddies.
And please make your argument. I haven't noticed any. What is it exactly that you want to discuss on this thread? Your mental health?
If so, then I feel entitled to inform you that you have an emotional problem. It has nothing to do with your intelligence or knowledge. No need to boast how many apostate books you've read. This actually doesn't help you come across any better. To the contrary...
BTW, isn't it so common for all JW apologists? They have absolutely no argument to make. Just empty assertions... Sigh...
Pole