Sometimes I do, especially when making a post or starting a new thread is likey to open Pandora's box and I suddently realize I won't have enough time to deal with the counter-arguments or when the discussion may upset some people without making them see my little point.
Pole
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by misguided ini wonder if it's just me, or if other posters are like this.
do any of you start to type a post, then hit the back button, or quit your post because your afraid of saying something stupid or "wrong," or reread some of your previous posts and wonder, what you were thinking when you posted it?.
i find most people on this board more than willing to accept you for whatever you say in a post, but i still frequently shy away from hitting that 'submit post' button.. rose (pushing the submit button before chickening out again)
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I'm an ex-dub as of tonight.
by Pole ini just want to let you know my updated status.
today i had another elder visit.
last time i had a call about a month ago.
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Pole
Thanks everybody again.
Gary,
My best deals in life are the bad deals I got out of. The Witnesses was a bad deal. Being out of it is a good deal.
Oh yes, the most emphatic way of describing doing my time as a JW would be "an interesting experience". Nice advice.
DannyBloem and google,
*applause* i'm so happy for you. hopefully i'll be able to post something similar sometime.
It takes some time, but from what I've read in your posts we share a lot of characteristics, so I'm sure you'll break free soon.
AK-Jeff
If your listed age is right, then you have a long life of freedom ahead. Go in peace....
Yes that's my age, . Enjoy your freedom too.
Jeffro,
Were they 'resplendent' water canals?
According to the brother, they were utterly replendent. lol
and refuse to even say 'hello' simply because they have heard an announcement at the hall that the person is no longer a Jehovah's Witness without even being told a reason why.
Yes. He actually emphasized there is no need to let brothers know if I was da'ed or df'ed. There will just be a "no longer a witless" announcement.
emma,
Congratulations. Your obvious happiness and peace was an excellent witness.
It may be just an impression, but after I some of my smiles at his "arguments" I could almost see fear in his eyes. And he reassured me that what I was saying had no impact on him. It was more like reassuring himself, because he used some very silly arguments. For instance, he said without access to the UN library the watchtower wouldn't have been able to produce such good articles for Awake! So I asked him: "How have they managed to write such resplendent articles after 2001?" And "is this why Awake is going monthly?" I don't think he got the irony.
ozzie,
Well done, Pole! A true exDub now, eh?
Most certainly
billygoat,
I'm not scared either.
TooOpinionated,
Congratulations, Pole. What a momentous day for you. I'm thrilled to hear you have gotten your family free before you left.
Yes three people altogether - they're not df-ed yet, but they could be anytime now.
Quotes,
As for the Awake! presentation: Since you identified yourself as no longer a JW, he was able to COUNT HIS TIME. He just slipped in a magazine sale attempt in case anyone questioned him, he could say "well, I tried to witness to him...
Ya know what. I thought about it and it's very likely. As I said it sounded so surreal that I can't think of any explanation.
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I'm an ex-dub as of tonight.
by Pole ini just want to let you know my updated status.
today i had another elder visit.
last time i had a call about a month ago.
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Pole
Thank you so much, everyone! Since I'm no longer a dub I guess I have to try to be a nicer person.
I'll start tomorrow since I'm still waiting for the official confirmation.
HEHE
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I'm an ex-dub as of tonight.
by Pole ini just want to let you know my updated status.
today i had another elder visit.
last time i had a call about a month ago.
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Pole
I just want to let you know my updated status.
Today I had another elder visit. Last time I had a call about a month ago. I haven't been to a meeting since last year.
I told the elder I no longer consider myself a witness. Then we had a long discussion. He is a "nice" guy, if utterly brainwashed after 40+ years in the TROOF and his entire family on the dark side.
I was totally peaceful and relaxed, smiling all the time. That is because I have been fading for so long that I could only smile when he said "don't be surprised when noone says hello when they meet you in the street".
He must have thought it sounded like motivating threat to me. I know I may sometimes come across as arrogant on this board, but I had some really good relations with some young witnesses.
Well, it didn't. I got my family out, so I'm fine. And my mental healing is more or less over. I owe a lot to reading this site as far as my initial recovery is concerned.
In the end he told me he will inform the Service Committe of the congo of my decision tonight. I also asked him to call me tonight and confirm my disassociation.
Then, jus tbefore leaving, he started telling me about some great Awake! article on some water canals to leave a nice impression, I guess. That was totally surreal. This guy is totally argument-proof. I guess I would have been the same a few years ago.
We shook hands, he left. This is the official end of the JW chapter in my life.
So thank you, JWD posters. You had a part in it too. Time to do something good for this wicked System of Things.
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Do you secretly wish for a demon attack - serious question
by stillajwexelder in.
i am not trying to compete with fmz as he has a supernatural thread going already but - do you secretlyt wish for a demon attack - serious question - the reason i ask this is because - if i had a demon attack it would mean there was a satan the devil and if there was a satan it would mean there was god.
what i am trying to say in a nutshell is "a demon attack would actually strengthen my faith" where at the moment it is non-existent almost
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Yes, I secretly wish for a succubus attack.
Seriously though, I don't care. It's a non-issue for me.
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Fun with GUIDs *** Geek Topic Advisory ***
by Elsewhere inrecently i worked on a db file storage system that saved files under guid id's.
i became curious what the odds were of the db accidentally generating a duplicate guid for two different files, so i did the math.. here is what i found:.
number of possible 128bit guids:.
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Pole
I didn't mean the compiler actually (but rather core libraries of programming languages), but thanks for pointing it out anyway.
SNG,
As for the "even" distribution I guess we need to be aware that there are many different "even" distributions of the probability function. So define evenness ;-)
I've just found an interesting page on the topic of RNGs:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=23788
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Fun with GUIDs *** Geek Topic Advisory ***
by Elsewhere inrecently i worked on a db file storage system that saved files under guid id's.
i became curious what the odds were of the db accidentally generating a duplicate guid for two different files, so i did the math.. here is what i found:.
number of possible 128bit guids:.
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I've heard that GUIDs are pseudo-random. So are all "random" numbers generated by compilers. Anyone know why? I've heard it is possible to reverse engineer sequences of "random" numbers generated by compilers. In theory of course.
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To fahrvegnugen
by Farkel inyou simply must get a name that resembles something at least close to the english language and away from something that sounds like a beer!
or maybe a fatal disease!
i thought this topic was relevant enough for its own thread.
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Farkel,
On the otherhand, no atheist can present a single fact to provide that a Creator doesn't exist.
Can you imagine such "a fact"? Honestly, I wonder what would it take to make such an argument? Similarily, how do you prove that Santa doesn't exist? Well, you normally show people the history of the belief, how it developed, and how the many things that people believe about him are mutually exclusive and out of keeping with reality. There is no other way to "prove" Santa Claus doesn't exist. But I might still argue that having explained the history of the Santa Claus tradition you haven't provided a single "fact" which conclusively proves he doesn't exist. Unless I believ Santa literally lives in Rovaniemi, Lapland and you take me there, walk around and conclude: "See, no real Santa! That's a fact".
The problem is that you can't take me to "the place" where God supposedly lives. Damn, "place" is another anthropomorphism.
Of course it's still possible to believe a Creator exists, but I think we can only express our opinions on the matter in terms of probabilities and inferences. Having honestly considered all the pros and cons, I believe God doesn't exist. And it's not a 50% probaility - that's where I usually ask people to be honest.
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Is God Uncaring and Hardhearted?
by Blueblades inmany people think that the answer to that question is yes.
( from the new book released at the dc.
) forget about what the watchtower teaches, what do you think about the question yourself, if you believe in god?
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Pole
According to the gospel mankind was given a way out of their troubles but they refused to follow through the opened door
How about the millions who DID follow throughn the opened door? Why do all christians who went through the door.....suffer, starve, and die......just like everyone else? You say god made a way out yet his way out didn't change one thing.
Those who did follow through the opened door truly and whole heartedly, don't ever complain, you silly. They accept atrocities as part of God's big game, which as greedawn said will not last too long. "Hopefully", she said. What a relief.
Seriously, what a totalitarian argument. Communists must feel ashamed. "Mankind was given a chance"? Whaaat? You mean a bunch of fantasizing Jews in the 1st century?
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To fahrvegnugen
by Farkel inyou simply must get a name that resembles something at least close to the english language and away from something that sounds like a beer!
or maybe a fatal disease!
i thought this topic was relevant enough for its own thread.
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Just to clarify my position:
If there is some supernatural being(s), then:
1) We have no relatively collective way of knowing that. Well, at least I haven't heard of one.
2) The "psychology" of this being must be totally different from human psychology. For instance, this supreme being does not share the moral standards of most humans or it is incapable of taking actions which should not be a problem for the Creator of the universe.
3) Because both the psychology and the ontology of this being (if it happens to exist in some unknown form) are beyond our comprehension it makes absolutely no sense to make up silly metaphors like this one:The child was trying to empty the sea by filling his little bucket with sea water, then emptying it repeatedly onto the sand. According to legend, St. Augustine asked the child, "Isn't it foolish to try to empty the sea with that little bucket?" The child gazed up at him calmly and replied, "And isn't it foolish to try to empty the sea of divine wisdom with the 'bucket' of your little mind?" Having said those words, the child vanished!
Nice rhetorics, but how does it confirm the ontological status of God again? It's just another attempt to anthropomorphisize (nice word, huh?) the problem whose nature is said to be superhuman.
Pole