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  Jude and 1 Enoch

  by Leolaia in

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  use of 1 enoch elsewhere in jude.

  jude 4 = 1 enoch 48:8-10, 81:1-2, 108:6-7 .

  jude 6 = 1 enoch 10:4-12, 12:4, 15:3-7 .

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  googlemagoogle

  the enoch-quote in jude originally made me have a closer look at the canon. this single scripture made me change my whole world-view.
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  The King James Version is Perfect

  by blabbermouth in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't know about anybody else,but i love the beautiful king james version.it contains no error and is perfect.there are no mistranslations in it,and none can be proven.i don't read or study anything else for spirituality.im like a tree that is planted by the water,i shall not be moved,amen,amen,hallelujah,praise jesus!!!!

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  googlemagoogle

  hi inquirer,
  
  believe me, i've read a lot of pseudepigraphal and apocryphal writings. they are not any more crap than the bible. i mean, talking snakes and donkeys... and fruit that makes you live forever and stuff like that. as someone else on this board said before (and i really love that statement): "when you start viewing the bible as what it is, a book of man, not of god, it all makes perfect sense". go read gilgamesh, you'd be surprised.
  
  the historical accounts to prove jesus existance all have problems. in old versions of josephus' antiquitae the "christ" parts are missing. smeels like forgery. and tacitus may have just written what some christian told him.
  
  but that's not the issue. the issue is, even if jesus would have existed, and even if he spoke some of the words written in the canonical gospels, he was a false prophet. his prophecies were never fulfilled. that's the truth.
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  The Jewish Messiah?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  2. beliefs

  moshe wrote in another thread:i studied with a rabbi and found out why i was so confused by the nt gospel teachings.

  of course, i never bothered to ask any jew what they teach about their messiah, i just assumed that the christian teaching about the jewish messiah matched what the jews believed about the coming messiah in the 1st century-not!

  you've only vaguely brushed up against your jewish knowledge on this forum, at least that i've seen.

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  googlemagoogle

  That would be like the Watchtower
  
  one of the things the watchtower and other churches want to make us believe, is that first century christendom was united. it was not. there were just about as many different groups as there are now. if not more.
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  The Jewish Messiah?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  moshe wrote in another thread:i studied with a rabbi and found out why i was so confused by the nt gospel teachings.

  of course, i never bothered to ask any jew what they teach about their messiah, i just assumed that the christian teaching about the jewish messiah matched what the jews believed about the coming messiah in the 1st century-not!

  you've only vaguely brushed up against your jewish knowledge on this forum, at least that i've seen.

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  googlemagoogle

  So what was the original context of Genesis 3:15
  
  genesis 3:14 maybe? do you think that text is "messianic"? messy maybe, yes, but "messianic"?
  most of the "prophecies" pointing to jesus are no prophecies at all.
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  The King James Version is Perfect

  by blabbermouth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know about anybody else,but i love the beautiful king james version.it contains no error and is perfect.there are no mistranslations in it,and none can be proven.i don't read or study anything else for spirituality.im like a tree that is planted by the water,i shall not be moved,amen,amen,hallelujah,praise jesus!!!!

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  googlemagoogle

  hi inquirer, don't worry, i wont get angry that quickly... ;-)
  
  People that wrote those Apocryphal books knew that they weren't from God.
  how do you know? and then again: the bible-writers didn't know their writings would be viewed as "god's word" centuries later. if they would have known, they would have probably written more carefully.
  
  You have to decide what is holy or what isn't.
  so it's a subjective decision, right? not provable? that's good. because if there's any truth about it (and there is not), then noone is to blame for not believing.
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  The Jewish Messiah?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. watchtower
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  moshe wrote in another thread:i studied with a rabbi and found out why i was so confused by the nt gospel teachings.

  of course, i never bothered to ask any jew what they teach about their messiah, i just assumed that the christian teaching about the jewish messiah matched what the jews believed about the coming messiah in the 1st century-not!

  you've only vaguely brushed up against your jewish knowledge on this forum, at least that i've seen.

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  deputy, and where does Isa 7:14 fit in there?
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  The Jewish Messiah?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. watchtower
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  moshe wrote in another thread:i studied with a rabbi and found out why i was so confused by the nt gospel teachings.

  of course, i never bothered to ask any jew what they teach about their messiah, i just assumed that the christian teaching about the jewish messiah matched what the jews believed about the coming messiah in the 1st century-not!

  you've only vaguely brushed up against your jewish knowledge on this forum, at least that i've seen.

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  googlemagoogle

  why should a rooster be born of a woman? don't get it...
  
  How many women claimed God was the father of their child? How many of those children claimed to be God?
  
  wooh, a hell of a lot. one of them even told her husband-to-be that the holy ghost came upon her...
  
  almostatheist (still almost?), the link i posted also includes some info why jesus didn't qualify as the jewish messiah.
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  The Jewish Messiah?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. watchtower
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  moshe wrote in another thread:i studied with a rabbi and found out why i was so confused by the nt gospel teachings.

  of course, i never bothered to ask any jew what they teach about their messiah, i just assumed that the christian teaching about the jewish messiah matched what the jews believed about the coming messiah in the 1st century-not!

  you've only vaguely brushed up against your jewish knowledge on this forum, at least that i've seen.

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  googlemagoogle

  deputy dog, so you know some messiah called immanuel? i guess several young women called their sons immanuel, but never heard of a messiah with that name...
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  The Jewish Messiah?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. watchtower
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  moshe wrote in another thread:i studied with a rabbi and found out why i was so confused by the nt gospel teachings.

  of course, i never bothered to ask any jew what they teach about their messiah, i just assumed that the christian teaching about the jewish messiah matched what the jews believed about the coming messiah in the 1st century-not!

  you've only vaguely brushed up against your jewish knowledge on this forum, at least that i've seen.

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  googlemagoogle

  here's what moshe says: Messiahpage
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  Did the bookstudy overseer ever phone you for your "time" and nothing else?

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  this happened fairly recently.

  my book study overseer who never calls if i am absent at the meeting, will call me with clockwork regularity at the beginning of the month and ask for my field service report.

  has this ever happened to you?

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  googlemagoogle

  sure as hell. but he probably found out that my hours were just made up, so he quit calling...