the "sent helper", the holy spirit, doesn't fit well with the JW doctrine of "justifying sovereignity" (or how is it called?). the question why god doesn't prevent evil on his people was always answered with something along the lines of the job-story, it's to prove people would adore him even if they don't benefit. despite the "fact" that this would have already be proven by job, it's illogical he'd send a spirit to help, because that would be cheating. yeah, Mr. J. God is a damn cheater. careful, satan.
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Did you ever experience Holy Spirit?
by Ring Wielder ini was a jw for 40 years.
although as an individual/cong/body of elders holy spirirt was prayed for, i cannot think of one moment when i thought..right now i have gods spirit acting upon me.
it was never described adequately for me to completely understand and i suspect that others felt the same, yet everyone talked as though they knew exactly how it worked.
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How did you get over your silly fear of demons?
by embeth2525 ineven now, i still battle with a silly fear of if something might have demons or not...i know it is silly, really, i do, but i haven't been able to get over it completely yet.
does anyone have any suggetions for me?
thanks beth
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@megadude, you don't seem to know enough about satanism, sorry. as i said, satanists DON'T believe in satan, the temple of set believes in some pre-satanic deity, defined in the egyptian god set, who doesn't come close to the christian concept of satan. NOTHING to do with it. they are no satanists.
@greendawn: you got it completely wrong. satanists don't believe in a impersonal evil force (and they wouldn't refer to "satan" as "evil" either, well they would, but just for fun), satan is a principle to them. in other words, the principle "do what is the best for yourself, for the people you like and for the society you live in". that's probably what jesus actually wanted to tell us (if he ever lived). satanism got NOTHING to do with magick. it's more of a philosophy (like buddhism) than a religion.
yes, sometimes those stereotype "satanist" rites with blood and stuff are practiced. but not because of some religion, but of the stereotype christianity has created. thus teenagers who are sick of christian churches see this as a good way to show their disgust. the downside is, it keeps those prejudices upright. -
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How did you get over your silly fear of demons?
by embeth2525 ineven now, i still battle with a silly fear of if something might have demons or not...i know it is silly, really, i do, but i haven't been able to get over it completely yet.
does anyone have any suggetions for me?
thanks beth
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googlemagoogle
you may want to read http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm
most if not all rumours spread about satanisms are made up. i feel pretty atracted by satanism, as its ethics are very high and logical, but i don't want to be the follower of any philosophy.
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They really don't have the truth! Their own web server admits it!
by AlmostAtheist inhttp://www.watchtower.org/thetruth
in case you have friendly html errors turned on, here's the output i get from the watchtower's site when i go searching for thetruth:.
it's nice to see them admitting it.
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googlemagoogle
must have been some internet demon (daemon). young people ask: "are the watchtower webservers posessed by daemons?".
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How did you get over your silly fear of demons?
by embeth2525 ineven now, i still battle with a silly fear of if something might have demons or not...i know it is silly, really, i do, but i haven't been able to get over it completely yet.
does anyone have any suggetions for me?
thanks beth
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I met a person a couple of years ago someone who was a satanist and actually perfomed a marriage ceremony with satan involving blood, as they all do, marrying to satan much as the christians are mystically married to Christ.
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Can you solve this paradox?
by Rod P inyou have a bow and arrow.
you shoot the arrow with the bow from point a to point b.. but the arrow will never reach point b, it's destination.
before the arrow can reach point b, it must first travel half way (let's call that point c).. but before the arrow can reach point c, it must first travel half way (let's call that point d).. but before the arrow can reach point d, it must first travel half way (let's call that point e).. do you see the problem?
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infinite, that's the word, sorry.
the thing is, that the space between a and b becomes infinitely small.
i'm thinking of an even tougher paradox... when the arrow travels from a to b, and c is halfway, it wont even reach c, because to reach c it has to pass halfway of a to c, which is d, and it wont even reach d, as... to be continued. -
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How did you get over your silly fear of demons?
by embeth2525 ineven now, i still battle with a silly fear of if something might have demons or not...i know it is silly, really, i do, but i haven't been able to get over it completely yet.
does anyone have any suggetions for me?
thanks beth
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googlemagoogle
i don't believe in demons and all, but one question you might ask yourself about those "demon-posessed" items: why would a demon do that? why would a higher spirit want to posess a porcelain doll? why would it come to your house when you watch harry potter or listen to led zep? if they really are all about enjoying their last years, they'd come over for a beer or two (or three... or four maybe) and well.. maybe listen to led zeppelin, so you probably really should get rid of those ;-)
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Can you solve this paradox?
by Rod P inyou have a bow and arrow.
you shoot the arrow with the bow from point a to point b.. but the arrow will never reach point b, it's destination.
before the arrow can reach point b, it must first travel half way (let's call that point c).. but before the arrow can reach point c, it must first travel half way (let's call that point d).. but before the arrow can reach point d, it must first travel half way (let's call that point e).. do you see the problem?
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googlemagoogle
the number of halfways is indefinite. so when the arrow reaches point B, it's actually still flying.
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Demanding the unusual
by greendawn inyou can approach god and granted to ask the fulfillment of any two wishes however extra ordinary, what would you ask?
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my favourite is an ecological one, the return to existence of all extinct animal and plant species, then some time travel ability to go back and see ancient worlds and participate in them.
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hmmm... you want all extinct animals back, but most of the existing animals and organisms gone? interesting.
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Star Wars 111: Who's heading to the opening session?!
by Frog inanyone heading to the opening session tomorrow?
anyone already been to an exclusive screening?
anyone going in full jedi gettup?!!
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googlemagoogle
yes thats true. i liked the "'good' lies in the eye of the beholder" part a lot. and the jedi breaking their own rules.