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  Races - where do they come from?

  by googlemagoogle in

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  this one goes out to all the evolution maniacs out there, king james bible bumpers are also welcome to present their view.

  even when i still believed in the bible as god's word, i never understood how (at least) three races came from 2 persons.

  i sometimes thought, maybe adam was black and eve white, but where does the mongol race come from then?

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  googlemagoogle

  this one goes out to all the evolution maniacs out there, king james bible bumpers are also welcome to present their view.
  
  even when i still believed in the bible as god's word, i never understood how (at least) three races came from 2 persons. i sometimes thought, maybe adam was black and eve white, but where does the mongol race come from then?
  
  well now as a convinced atheist i still would like to have an answer to that. did races develop independently by some sambian monkeys becoming huge black homeboys, some viking monkeys becoming blond white nerds and some asian monkeys starting to cook chinese food or do all races have the same origin and developed from there? what is current knowledge on this topic?
  
  i thought about it, because neandertals are thought to have been independent from homo-sapiens as well as the homo-florensis.
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  King James - why ?

  by Ramblin_rose in

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  i trust the following links will prove very enlightening regards the subject of bible "translations" and why it is very important to ensure that you are studying god`s pure word, and not a translation which was put together to suit the whims of those whose interests it best suited.

  al cuppit .

  http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/alcuppit.htm.

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  googlemagoogle

  earth is flat.
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  WT inflating their numbers?

  by Fatfreek in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there have been posts here that indicate the kh building work may be slowing in the u.s., and that there is consolidation of the congos going on.

  if that is true why don't we see the society's published numbers on the decline?

  my next question is, heaven forbid, you don't suppose they're inflating the membership numbers do you?

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  googlemagoogle

  ALL numbers are fake. not only the different possibilities to count hours, but also simply faked numbers. i somewhen got used to write 4 to 6 hours on my sheet even if i didn't go, or only one hour or less. i know, a lot of people do that, especially the young ones. also the attendance-numbers are pretty much faked, due to the counting-versions. some count only the publishers, some the persons who could possibly contribute to the meeting, some count everyone but the babies, some count everyone including the babies... yeah. numbers. never trust statistics you dind't fake yourself.
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  607 date

  by Cordelia in

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  2. scandals

  ive just left the jws well got dfed a month ago!

  but family want me back so im trying to prove to myself that it isnt true, top get the strength not to go back,i heard the 607 date may be false, can anyone show me about that, i know exactly what the jws say and cant believe the intial date is wrong, is it?

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  it's probably on page 105, but i'm not sure, don't have an english version. it's a grey box with a foto of charlie. i think they explained it by some miraculous error, that made the calculation right, although it was wrong... gee.
  
  that other calculation is about the 69 yearweeks i think... starting with the rebuilt temple to the appearaance of the christ. that's also fun stuff. mostly because noone knows when jesus was born (if at all, that is). and iirc their pivotal date is another false one. never been into that one (except the birth of jesus), so i can't give you more info on that.
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  Twin Towers\ Armageddon

  by Es in

  1. jw
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  hey all this may have been mentioned before.

  i was thinking last night about when the twin towers fell and i remembered thinking how close armageddon must be did anybody else think similar....i guess it would only apply to those who were still in the borg at the time es

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  googlemagoogle

  One of the talks was about how "since 9/11 things are different!"
  
  sounds a lot like 1914. maybe jesus came again? people always die when jesus comes invisibly, according to wt-doctrine.
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  Dubbie spam

  by Abaddon in

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  got this forwarded from my dad.

  apart from standard snide dubbie comments it is quite funny, although obviously written by an adult.... .

  thank goodness for my book of bible stories book and listening to the great teacher!.

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  googlemagoogle

  LOL. it's funny. thou shalt not admit adultery... lol. joshuah's son!
  
  but i'd swear this is an later addition:
  Thank goodness for My Book of Bible Stories book and Listening To The Great Teacher!
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  607 date

  by Cordelia in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ive just left the jws well got dfed a month ago!

  but family want me back so im trying to prove to myself that it isnt true, top get the strength not to go back,i heard the 607 date may be false, can anyone show me about that, i know exactly what the jws say and cant believe the intial date is wrong, is it?

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  cordelia, i just want to add one little advice or better put, personal experience (i'm one of those still in, who had big troubles with the elders bout that kind of stuff, but now that i'm "inactive" they leave me alone).
  
  don't try to argue a topic you have not yet understood COMPLETELY. don't start a discussion without being prepared. iirc your father is talking you into comming back and all, and it happens all too fast to say something, like the 607 issue, without having considered the response (they'll bring along books and books and mags and mags). you wouldn't have a chance to make your point clear if you are not prepared for it.
  
  if one topic is important to you, research it thoroughly, and when you know both sides (or more) and know, how an argument will be tried to be dismissed, then you can start discussing it - if that's what you want.
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  607 date

  by Cordelia in

  1. watchtower
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  ive just left the jws well got dfed a month ago!

  but family want me back so im trying to prove to myself that it isnt true, top get the strength not to go back,i heard the 607 date may be false, can anyone show me about that, i know exactly what the jws say and cant believe the intial date is wrong, is it?

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  But use your intelligence, remember that most of those who are shouting that it is the wrong date at one time believed that it was the right date.
  
  this is ridiculous! first of all, most jws don't even know how to explain the whole 607 stuff. and secondly, i bet there are a lot on here who at one time believed in santa clause and i don't think they still do.
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  607 date

  by Cordelia in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ive just left the jws well got dfed a month ago!

  but family want me back so im trying to prove to myself that it isnt true, top get the strength not to go back,i heard the 607 date may be false, can anyone show me about that, i know exactly what the jws say and cant believe the intial date is wrong, is it?

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  googlemagoogle

  hi cordelia,
  
  you don't even have to go that indepth to prove it wrong. it's more about the 1914 date.
  
  607 is a date to calculate 1914. BUT IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN SO! pick up a revelation-climax-book and search for a grey box with russels picture in it (page number anyone?). it says, russel calculated from 606. and he said in 1914 armageddon would come.
  
  now, the reason why he thought 606 is that he also calculated the year 0 (zero) as a year (it doesn't exist!). so his calculations were false! and his predictions too, by the way, armageddon never came.
  
  so later when they found out about the mistake, they changed the year to 607 (which still is false) and changed the meaning of 1914 (but they dind't change it until the 1930s!). it's embarassing.
  
  why is the 607 date wrong? the JW calculation is: 539 babylon fell, so the jews were MAYBE in jerusalem somewhen around 537 (take an insight book and look for all the WT conjunctives like, if-then, maybe, most probably, obviously and the like, there's nothing to prove this).
  
  now 539 is a respected historical date, but the respected historical date for the destruction of jerusalem is 587, not 607. so even if all their other calculations would be right about the jews being in babylon for 70 years (which the bible doesn't say! it says 70 years of yoke for the nations and 70 years for the king of babylon, look up jeremiah), they still have to pick one of the respected historical dates and dismiss the other one. they might as well use 587 as the destruction of jerusalem and dismiss the 539 (and thus their own 537) date.
  
  in the end you have to think about one thing: russel even calculated the 1914 date using the pyramids of gizeh.
  
  good luck destroying your faith. it's fun :-)
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  Anybody playing ToonTown? (Disney's massively multi-player 3d game)

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey all,.

  i set zach up with a toontown account, but now it seems that gina and i are the ones that are playing it.

  it is so cool.

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  googlemagoogle

  nope, i'm a "world of warcraft" citizen.