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  "You guys are the most preachy atheists I've ever met!"

  by GetBusyLiving in

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  a christian friend of mine had a melt down this weekend and screamed at my roommate about both of us being "preachy atheists".

  he also said, in talking about me, that "i can see it in his eyes, he think's he's right!

  " it was after a bunch of drinks at a bar and my roommate said that he was nearly in tears.

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  googlemagoogle

  Do we really want to get pedantic about semantics?
  not in the case of "true" and "false" atheists, but surely in the case of "belief", as it's semantics are confused very often.
  
  Would you have prefered the phrase "truly an Atheist", rather than "true Atheist"?
  not really, but let's better focus on the rest. i just wanted to point out that i don't set cathegories like true and false atheists just as JWdom and other Xiandom groups see themselves as "true" Xians versus the "false" other Xians.
  
  I wasn't getting into aspects of atheistic religiosity, at all, would you like me to?
  whatever you wish, but only after tearing apart the rest of my posts before ;-)
  
  (Just a few questions to make up for the lack in my last post, if that's acceptable? )
  so glad about that!
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  miningco anyone?

  by googlemagoogle in

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  some 5 years and longer ago there was a page dedicated to jws on miningco/about.com.

  a brother was the admin but later it seemed the org made him close down the site.

  there was a chatroom on that site, i was pretty active there for a while.

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  googlemagoogle

  ah yes, i remember reading this letter before: adios obed
  
  forgot it was him who was the guide on witnesses.miningco.com
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  Maintaining "Paradise"

  by DelTheFunkyHomosapien in

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  how do the dubs explain paradise working?

  i am by no means across any religions theology so dumb this right down people.

  pull me up if i'm wrong but they say after i and 99% odd of the worlds populace gets smited (sp) that the jw's or at least 144,000 of them will inherit the earth.

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  googlemagoogle

  All that can't be explained away by 'Jobo's gunna do it all man, oh boy it's gunna be a trip'
  
  you bet.
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  Maintaining "Paradise"

  by DelTheFunkyHomosapien in

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  how do the dubs explain paradise working?

  i am by no means across any religions theology so dumb this right down people.

  pull me up if i'm wrong but they say after i and 99% odd of the worlds populace gets smited (sp) that the jw's or at least 144,000 of them will inherit the earth.

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  googlemagoogle

  there still would be marriage and sex. however there's a debate among JWs if the resurrected would be able to marry again or not, because of the "like the angels" clausula.
  
  overpopulation would be taken care of by jehovah. maybe by stopping reproduction. or maybe heading for new planets.
  
  feel free to have fantasy when it comes to paradise. i've met brothers who believed they would be able to fly around like birds in paradise...
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  miningco anyone?

  by googlemagoogle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some 5 years and longer ago there was a page dedicated to jws on miningco/about.com.

  a brother was the admin but later it seemed the org made him close down the site.

  there was a chatroom on that site, i was pretty active there for a while.

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  googlemagoogle

  some 5 years and longer ago there was a page dedicated to JWs on miningco/about.com. a brother was the admin but later it seemed the org made him close down the site.
  
  there was a chatroom on that site, i was pretty active there for a while. had a great time there, met a lot of nice people there too.
  
  i wonder if there's anyone on this board who was in the chat back then.
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  WHAT DID YOU THINK OF APOSTATES ?????????+

  by vitty in

  1. jw
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  when you were still in the org, did you ever wonder what the apostates were saying?

  the society would just say lies and half truths.i always assumed it was about the trinity, and other religious stuff.

  i thought they were exjws who had become born agains !.

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  never knew who they are. sometimes one or two would try to give away tracts at conventions and everyone who would stop and talk with them catched the some stingy views from the passers-by. one older brother also always told stories about some "evil slave class" that would be fighting the "faithful and discreete slave class".
  
  later i thought, if something is the truth, any argument against it can be disproven. i thought, why not raise the topics and give an answer to them.
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  "You guys are the most preachy atheists I've ever met!"

  by GetBusyLiving in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a christian friend of mine had a melt down this weekend and screamed at my roommate about both of us being "preachy atheists".

  he also said, in talking about me, that "i can see it in his eyes, he think's he's right!

  " it was after a bunch of drinks at a bar and my roommate said that he was nearly in tears.

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  googlemagoogle

  heh. you answered without using a question! (another turn-up for the books) ;-)
  
  Ergo, they have faith in it.
  
  in science the known things are explained with known things (as soon as something new is found, it's a known thing). i'd say that's a quick and dirty definition of "falsifiable". in religion the known things are explained with unknown things. that's "unfalsifiable".
  
  
  the thing is, we've seen hundreds of years ([edited] *) of science making progress. we know that science is capable of finding out new things, developing better theories and improving things. we don't need faith to know that science is capable of this.
  
  
  or do you want to go down to the roots and say that everything is faithbased?
  
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  of course i have not SEEN it. but history shows us... do i have to BELIEVE in history?
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  "You guys are the most preachy atheists I've ever met!"

  by GetBusyLiving in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a christian friend of mine had a melt down this weekend and screamed at my roommate about both of us being "preachy atheists".

  he also said, in talking about me, that "i can see it in his eyes, he think's he's right!

  " it was after a bunch of drinks at a bar and my roommate said that he was nearly in tears.

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  btw, i don't think there are "true" and "false" atheists. this is a typical christian esclusive fundy paradigm to discriminate other christian belief-systems.
  
  but there are of course different atheists. atheism is NOT a religion. i see at least 2 categories of atheists: those who positively say there IS no god, and those who don't believe in a god because they don't see any evidence.
  
  religious people often think, atheists are all of the first cathegory. those who call themselves atheists are most likely of the second cathegory though. because it's impossible to prove the nonexistence of something.
  
  interestingly most religious people are atheists of the first cathegory though. most christians would positively say "zeus does not exist". or "quezalcoatl does not exist". or "vishnu does not exist". or "baal does not exist". in fact, all exclusive religionists are millionfold atheists of the positive cathegory.
  
  so in case you don't believe in 99,999,998 of the gods made up by other religions, we are not that far from each other. coz i don't believe in 99,999,999 of them...
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  "You guys are the most preachy atheists I've ever met!"

  by GetBusyLiving in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a christian friend of mine had a melt down this weekend and screamed at my roommate about both of us being "preachy atheists".

  he also said, in talking about me, that "i can see it in his eyes, he think's he's right!

  " it was after a bunch of drinks at a bar and my roommate said that he was nearly in tears.

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  googlemagoogle

  So are you suggesting that those who "believe" that science will eventually unravel all this world's answers cannot, by definition, be true atheists?
  
  no, i don't suggest that. i only suggest that atheism is not necessarily connected to reliance on science. and reliance on science is not necessarily connected to "the faith that science WILL (without the eventually...) unravel all this world's answers".
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  "You guys are the most preachy atheists I've ever met!"

  by GetBusyLiving in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a christian friend of mine had a melt down this weekend and screamed at my roommate about both of us being "preachy atheists".

  he also said, in talking about me, that "i can see it in his eyes, he think's he's right!

  " it was after a bunch of drinks at a bar and my roommate said that he was nearly in tears.

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  googlemagoogle

  so the worst you can do to him is kill him.
  
  yes, and that's pretty bad for an atheist. because this is the only life he has. so an atheist would be treating life very carefully.
  
  the question for a sense is senseless.