How about an apostate who used to work in Bethel to corroborate the story?
my father, a hard core JW and former bethalite with strong ties to bethal, has told me to my face that the society monitors apostate websites. take it for what it is.
i am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.
so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?
here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.
How about an apostate who used to work in Bethel to corroborate the story?
my father, a hard core JW and former bethalite with strong ties to bethal, has told me to my face that the society monitors apostate websites. take it for what it is.
what would you have done back in the 1st century when jesus came on the earthly stage and started christianity.
would you have became his follower?
that is not the only congregation that had people problems.
wow this is a pretty big hypothetical question but i will entertain it. first off i want to reiterate that the letters to the first century congreagation found in the bible canon are just a snipit of the "inspired" letters going around at the time and they only give us a glimpse as to what was actually going on at that time. now if i happend to be born in that area at that time i would find the teachings of jesus very refreshing. jesus spoke about love and compassion and rebuked those like the pharisees who were controlling and abused their power. i would have welcomed a change from that burdensome religion. if i were in the congregation and saw the things being argued over i would have taken sides with those who supported free thought, a personal relationship with god and living a life in the footsteps of christ. i would have opposed those that tried to make their own rules by twisting scripture.
my wife is getting baptized on the 19th.. i wrote her a letter today.
basically i asked her why she isn't coming to me to find out my concerns.
i am the person who has the most invested in her.
CYP.....what you need to focus on right now is buying some time. ask her why she wants to get baptised right away. remind her that she will have more opportunities to get baptised. also remind her that if she has already made a dedication to god in her heart then that is what really matters. the actual babtism is just a symbol of the dedication she has already made. if you can get her to agree to put off baptism for just 6 months then you will have won half the battle. talk about compromise and how important it is for you two to meet on mutual terms. she may be afriad that if she doesn't get baptised and if the "END" comes she won't make it but remind her that her dedication to god in prayer is what is most improtant and that god knows her heart condition. if she agrees to wait then you can slowly get her to think about it a bit more.
regards,
jared
i really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
i think that the JWs are right about a lot of stuff but they are also wrong about alot of stuff. the stuff that they are wrong about is enough for me not to want to be a part of that organization but i do charish and value some of the education that i recieved from them. what exactly are you talking about that they are right on?
long time, no post.
:) i was just curious when the memorial was this year?
is it at the end of march, at full moon, right?
i thought about going and partaking in the wine and bread. when my dad asks what the hell i was doing i'd say that "since i've left the WTS i've never felt closer to God and that i believe i am going to heaven".....so THAT's why i partook. hahahah i bet he'd really shun me forever for that one.
i ran into a young jw i hadn't seen in probably 12 years, anyways, she was the presiding overseer's daughter, perfect little jw... she's now 25 yoa, she is still an active witness and in fact a sympathizer to their crap but dressed in a low cut top, belly showing, carrying a beer, trolling for guys out a hot spot on a friday night with a "worldly" friend.. she talked to me for 5 mins and told me she had been df'd for a year but how horrible it was, she is reinstated and doing good..... but everything about her looks said she wasn't a good little jw.. i think more and more hypocrites are being raised in the organization.
i wouldn't be able to stand leading a double life, i would much rather be honest and not hiding who and what i am... but there are more young jws, including ones i would never suspect, that are jws by day, and regular people at night.
i think they are falling into the "sunday morning christians" mentality and carrying tons of guilt around with them.. i just wish they would wake up.
JTP....where are you from?
someone told me that glen howe was almost disfellowshipped decades ago?
can anyone verify?
any details?.
glen came down to durham nc for a laywers meeting at duke university and he stayed with my family. he seemed like a cool dude. he was 73 and his wife was 37!!
man!
i cannot believe all the attention i got yesterday.. i am a forum celebrity now.
i do sign audigraphs.
defd.....how can you give a good witness if you avoid the questions?
hey yall just wanted to say hi.
today is my 1st day here.
i hope this is a good site for jehovahs people.
will someone put this in the "best-of" section!!! you guys crack me up man.....heheheh
dear friends,
here is some intriguing info on the real history of the watchtower organization and the hidden agenda and role that they play in relation to the new world order.
i've pasted an excerpt here which i find especially interesting.
the guy who writes for http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com is a nut case. he may have come accross an interesting facts here and there but i think much of what he's trying to connect is a stretch at most.