As a matter of fact, I'm wondering if the door to door work isn't completely pointless!
dunno e-man - maybe not pointless - lets just say
actively achieving nothing
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e-man u are very
all this talk about whether door to door work is fruitful or not has really got me thinking.. so i was wondering, (a) how many jw's or ex's here were actually converted on the door, and (b) how many jw's or ex's here ever obtained a convert on the door?.
i made 2 converts whilst a jw, but 1 was the son of an interested person, the other was a wayward son of a weak sister so i get a zero.. my dad worked at london heathrow as an air traffic controller, he got 6 other controllers to join up, so if you're arriving in the uk, don't fly apostasy airways!
for all his frequent bouts of vac pioneering, i don't think that he ever pulled a live one off the doors, so he gets a zero too.. my mum was quite a puller in her time but they were all friends of friends who came to sit in on bible studies etc, so, sorry mater, you get a zero also.. as a matter of fact, i'm wondering if the door to door work isn't completely pointless!.
As a matter of fact, I'm wondering if the door to door work isn't completely pointless!
dunno e-man - maybe not pointless - lets just say
actively achieving nothing
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e-man u are very
this still makes me angry.
the stupidity of this saying.
"but they might get the truth".
guys - thinking back
this still makes me angry
the stupidity of this saying
"but they might get the truth"
a waste of time mostly used to count time
i remember one night at the hall - it was a mid week meeting - the service meeting had just started and as was my usual custom i was in the back row catching up on some much needed shut eye
(the service meeting of course being the perfect soundtrack to this scenario)
next thing u know i'm being rudely awoken by the commotion of a rolling pissed drunk hobo sliding into the vacant seat beside me
the fact that he smelt like a urinal was beside the point i guess
i thought to myself, "what the fuck?"
and looked over at the two bros minding the door - "friends" of mine in a bro kind of way - who had let this guy in
i looked at these door bro's as if to say "what the fuck's did u let him in here for?"
but they just kind of ignored me
anyway the meeting progressed - no way i was gonna get back to sleep - then this guy starts yelling stuff out - u know - drunken nonsense - coz he'd noticed everyone else in the hall doing it i suppose
i'm thinking to myself - they've gotta throw this guy out - surely? - and continued to look over at the door bros from time to time - with a "are u guys crazy - throw him out" look on my face
but all they did was come over to the guy and ask him if he could keep it down a tad
i dunno why i didnt get up and go sit somewhere else - maybe the hall was really packed - i cant recall
the drunk ended up leaving before the meeting finished - from boredom
i think
so the meeting finished and i went over to talk to the door bro's
asking - you know - "are u guys stupid why did u let him in?"
the answer
"but he might get the truth"
i dont know how many times i was out countin time wastin time with a witness who would insist on preaching to a non communable person (be that for what ever reason - intoxication, senility, foriegn language etc) and yet the person i was with would persist - under angelic direction no doubt - to preach to the person
"because they might get the truth"
this sorta stuff was jw urban legend at it's finest imo
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ps "they might get the truth " can also be substituted for the phrase " they may be a sheeplike person" whenever
first the 1880 teaching:-.
"the seventh trumpet .. reaches to 1914.. christ entered upon the official work of king in 1878.. but what becomes of the idea of those who now oppose us in these things, that christ does not come into possession of his crown, until after this day of wrath?
will they not be compelled to admit for consistency's sake that the harvest and the treading of the winepress must be located away beyond 1914?
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Yet another shameful LIE by the Experts at Vending Door-To-Door Weasel-wording, Roguery .. and DEATH. The Watchtower Society and the Creed of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a SHAMEFUL NUISANCE, a CHEAT, a BLASPHEMOUS INSULT, a SHAM, a FILTHY LIE, a DECEITFUL TRICK, a SCANDAL, an ORGANIZED FRAUD, a DISGRACE, an ABOMINATION and a DAMNED OUTRAGE from start to finish.
so we should assume you feel it best that we don't get involved with them?
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ps. you forgot to mention that they are also not very nice
i thought the name of this thread was so on time for this thread demostrates one of the sad things about claiming to speak for god, when one actually does not.. when i was a newly appointed elder at the tender age of 27 .
i was introduced to the world of the judical committee.. it was in fact my first case.
i had gotten a call from the po before the meeting stating that their would be an elders meetings to discuss some judical matters.
hi jt - moving story
i went through a similar ordeal
but on the recieving end
there was this bro's (a dickhead) wife - to cut a long story short -
she was hot
and for some reason she dug ugly dumb and lazy me
we had always got on great and genuinely liked each other as friends
in an attempt to be good i resisted her advances at first but over time cracked under the pressure and we ended up fooling around
this was eventually discovered a while later after i'd moved to another cong
the elders of that cong hauled me into the backroom and got down to the nitty gritty of their prurient concerns
via invasive intterogation
i wasnt df'd but put on probation
poetic justice prevailed in the end however when one of the gestapo on the committee (a "happily" married elder) got df'd a couple of months later for screwing one of the local full time single pioneer
sisters brains out
for all i know he may have been screwing the pioneer sister contemporaneously with my judicial hearing!!
thanks jt
i feel regret over all those i helped come into the truth
you know - for helping ruin their lives and thier relationsships
with their families and so on
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my dad asked the co about this one.
mat 27:52-53. and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, .
and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
rizzy - got your email and have replied
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this is my first post in any network such as this.
i have been "lurking" around the "apostate" sites for the last year or so.
i am glad i have!
hi 30 and all other newbies - i think the good thing about a place like this is that it breaks the mentally isolated stranglehold that the wtbts likes to keep its members in
and reading the posts u begin to realise that u are not alone in experiencing the doubts fears and concerns etc you have with the wtbts
which is the absolute last thing the wtbts wants to happen because it means lose of power and control over u
but then i am probably not telling u anything new
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how many of you ever counted the number of each letter in a watchtower article to see which letter was used most?.
hugs.
joel the eccentric statistician.
cant say i've devoted too much time to counting the number of letters in watchtower mags joel - sorry
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just like the urban legends that we all heard at assemblies, we also read questions from readers in the wts rags...did you guys ever read those while you were still jws and think "oh my god...there is no way that some 8 year old wrote or even said any of this.
" or when you heard at assemblies that we should be soooo thankful because the brothers in africa are walking through gator infested, malarial waters with their children on their backs and their book bags and meeting clothes on their heads, through monsoon rains 74 miles each way to attend their assemblies.
my mother used to say the same thing about cleaning my plate because there were kids in whoknowswhere starving to death.
this questions from readers format is a handy editorial technique they use in an attempt to head objections off at the pass - so to speak
denounce contrary opinion in very subtle way
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whether i am a lutheran, catholic, jehovahs witness, mormon jew or any other religion i can play the part quite well.
as a matter of fact most of us can.
i can be regular at my places of worship, give generously , teach sunday school, read my.
mensa - WRONG
belonging to the wtbts and fulfilling all its policies is the only means of salvation according to the bible
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how about this kind of actions?.
the wts had an application - presented on.
the 6.09.1995 - and reg.
mac - more of the same
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