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  UNDERSTANDING WHY THE ORGANIZATION is a false idol and a BLASPHEMY

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do we understand these three words: worship, idolatry, and blasphemy?.

  most christians have a vague notion of worship, idolatry, and blasphemy already, but.

  a clear definition is necessary.. we must take care to differentiate, however.. how the words appear in original language and how they are defined today might be at odds.. ____________________.

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  GOD IS WITH US
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  The best book on biblical archaeology I've ever read

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm referring to "the bible unearthed : archaeology's new vision of ancient isreal and the origin of its sacred texts" by israel finkelstein and neil asher silberman.

  i think it should be required reading for anyone who deigns to defend the historicity and literal interpretation of the bible.

  (i'm looking at you singlecell).

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  OnTheWayOut:

  Terry, I didn't read it all, but I don't see any criticism of THE BIBLE UNEARTHED (TBU) in the controversy you refer to.

  Finkelstein blasts Dershowitz in a book about Israel, not about the content of TBU.

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  Thanks for bringing that up, Phizzy and OTWO!

  Finklestein attacked Dershowitz first and leveled many accusations about him and the book, Case for Israel.

  In so doing, Finklestein hurt himself and the gravitas of his own book.

  So, when I brought up Finklestein's archeological findings in a debate, I was horrified to have the evidence DISMISSED

  by my opponent. The topic switched to defamation and bias rapidly! (The unusual name of Finklestein allowed the confusion, I suppose.)

  This is what happens.

  Richard Wagner's music becomes synonymous with Anti-Semitism in the minds of certain people.

  The baby goes out with the bathwater.

  That's what I intended to express in the above paragraphs, but I clogged the drain with too much chatter.

  Thanks.

  In confusing the two authors and further confusing the topic--more harm than good was done:)

  
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  YOU 'THINK' YOU ARE FREE when you leave the Org. . . but it can be an ILLUSION

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you know there is nothing more insane than being partly indoctrinated and partly free?.

  the level of cognitive dissonance is ridiculous!.

  i have told this story before, so i'll shorten it to cut to the chase.. in 1987, i was dating a professional psychotherapist with a view to marriage.

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  The incredible role of personal charisma (re: Pastor Russell) is lost on us today.

  The loyalty of 'Russellites' was based on an exaggerated and fictitious appraisal of the man's accomplishments.

  "He was an expert in theoretical and practical psychology and phrenology. . ."

  Phrenology was what?--the detailed study of the shape and size of the cranium bumps as a supposed indication of character and mental abilities.

  
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  Rutherford's Hostile Welcome in New Zealand

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/hostile-welcome-new-zealand/.

  rutherfords hostile welcome in new zealand.

  posted on december 23, 2014 by barbara on www.watchtowerdocuments.org.

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  A public talk titled "The World Has Ended; Millions Now Living May Never Die" was first delivered on February 24, 1918 in Los Angeles, California.

  Five weeks later, on March 31, 1918 the title was changed to indicate absolute certainty: "The World Has Ended; Millions Now Living Will Never Die."

  The public talk continued to be delivered under that same title until 1925. The material was published as a book in 1920.

  The prophecy failed, but the organization certainly got tremendous mileage out of the countdown clock

  of the generation policy.

  As that teaching slowly strangled and reincarnated into overlapping generations, the entire fraud can now be seen for what it was/is.

  _______________________

  http://jehovah.net.au/books/Millions_Now_Living_Will_Never_Die.pdf

  One book reviewer said this:

  "It's so funny. A hilarious book you just can't put down. Why? Because they were actually serious. It is the Plan 9 From Outer Space of the book world."

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  https://archive.org/details/MillionsNowLivingWillNeverDieRogerson
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  What is truth?

  by Heisenberg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

  i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

  they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

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  What is a lie but a misrepresentation of reality? A funhouse mirror.

  A direct one on one matchup between the description of something, and of the thing being described= truth.

  Distortion arrives rather invisibly.

  THE TRUTH is not the same thing as

  THE WHOLE TRUTH which is not the same thing as

  NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

  Think about that sometime. . .
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  The best book on biblical archaeology I've ever read

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm referring to "the bible unearthed : archaeology's new vision of ancient isreal and the origin of its sacred texts" by israel finkelstein and neil asher silberman.

  i think it should be required reading for anyone who deigns to defend the historicity and literal interpretation of the bible.

  (i'm looking at you singlecell).

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  Take a look inside Dershowitz's book (especially Table of Contents)

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/047146502X
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  Campaign to Israel

  by humanperson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been wanting to introduce myself but i don't know where to begin.

  my husband and i are enjoying our third guilt-free weekend of our lives (both born-in, almost 30).

  he has been out mentally for the last year and a half but patiently waited for me to come around.

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  http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/047146502X
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  YOU 'THINK' YOU ARE FREE when you leave the Org. . . but it can be an ILLUSION

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you know there is nothing more insane than being partly indoctrinated and partly free?.

  the level of cognitive dissonance is ridiculous!.

  i have told this story before, so i'll shorten it to cut to the chase.. in 1987, i was dating a professional psychotherapist with a view to marriage.

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  Terry

  The deliberate contrarian stance of the organization is evident in the meticulous dismantling and deconstruction

  of all things traditional in Christendom.

  Jesus Christ is Christ Jesus, for example.

  Worship of Jesus becomes worship of Jehovah.

  The cross is the torture-stake.

  And so on.

  Fixation on being different is a fetish for JW's.

  It creates a bias and blindness about any pragmatic consideration of free choice.

  Worship is EMOTIONAL and not perfunctory ritual.

  The GB removes all emotional attachment from EVERY facet of worship--except devotion to the Organization itself. (Mother)
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  Deck the Kingdom Halls

  by sparrowdown in

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  2. humour

  i have discovered why the gb-rinch canceled christmas.

  (apart from them being fun-sucking assholes and "christ" is in the name.).

  the christmas carol deck the halls clearly gives the command to:.

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  Hey gang, let's all go out tonight and decorate the local Kingdom Hall with beautiful Christmas lights!

  Won't the brothers and sisters be de-lighted at the NEW light?
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  The best book on biblical archaeology I've ever read

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm referring to "the bible unearthed : archaeology's new vision of ancient isreal and the origin of its sacred texts" by israel finkelstein and neil asher silberman.

  i think it should be required reading for anyone who deigns to defend the historicity and literal interpretation of the bible.

  (i'm looking at you singlecell).

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  Terry

  Ex-J-dubs have to be very cautious of confirmation bias.

  When I was working at Half-Price books in the religion section I began to notice a trend.

  Debunking books were followed by apologist books.

  Each respective side remained convinced.

  All I would urge is that Ex-JW's read BOTH sides of each argument to remain aware of ALL the particulars.

  Why?

  If you get into a discussion and you don't know what ammunition the other side has--you can be whipsawed.

  Remember, intellectual honesty is the willingness to be wrong when presented with the facts.

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  When academics (experts) disagree and each side has credentials, I have to back out of a debate because I'm not

  as smart as either party. My bias pushes me too far in a certain direction. I would easily allow myself to become

  convinced of the argument which emotionally satisfies me.