Posts by Terry

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Crazy timeline of the bible.

by Crazyguy in

it's interesting to me anyway to see what the bible says the timeline of mankind is in relation to reality.

abraham was born roughly 2000 bce .

let's think about this for a moment.

Terry

The fonts don't reproduce when you copy and paste, so go to the link:

http://www.millingtonumconthefox.org/oldtest_files/oldtestrev7.html

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Russell's chronology was right after all!

by Vanderhoven7 in

the kingdom of god is already begun, which is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in a.d. 1878, and that the "battle of the great day of god almighty" which will end in 1914 with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced.. i just did the math....and russell was right.

christ returned invisibly in 1874 and took rulership (restored kingdom reign) in 1878.. 2520 years minus 607 when jerusalem was destroyed = 1913 (accounting for no year zero) = 1914. that`s 2520 - 607 = 2014. but wait, that`s 2520 prophetic years of 360 days, not solar days of 365.25 days.

to convert to solar days then one must multuiply 2520 x 365.25 which gives us 2,484 actual years.

Terry

Pastor Russell pointed to 1799 as the beginning of the “time of the end,” not 1914. For Russell 1914 was the end of the Gentile Times and the end of the time of trouble.

in 1879, he started publishing Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence (not coming).
The rapture was to take place in 1878. When it failed to transpire, Russell split with Barbour and went off on his own.

(http://pastorrussell.blogspot.com/2010/06/pastor-russell-and-henry-dunn-1801-1878.html)
Russell believed that Christ had returned invisibly in 1874 and that he had been ruling from the heavens since that date.
He predicted that a period known as the "Gentile Times" would end in 1914 and that Christ would assume power of Earth's affairs at that time. He interpreted the outbreak of World War I as the beginning of Armageddon.

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Why are the Scientologists Getting All of the Attention?

by Wild_Thing in

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there are more jws than scientologists.

jws shun their ex-members, too, and have beliefs just as weird.

we also have had our celebrities .... michael jackson, prince.

Terry

Before there was a Lafayette Ron Hubbard, there was a Joseph Franklin Rutherford, to be sure! Each in his own way was a nasty piece of business.

If we (all of us today) were living during the Rutherford era, the Judge could easily have been exposed as a cult leader. However . . . the modern concept of a cult has been slow to develop and it takes the era of the internet and World Wide Web and Television to reach enough people with such an expose'.

The newspapers were the only tool in the toolbox way back a century ago for exposing reckless, crooked, pathology in organized religion.

The newspaper, The Brooklyn Eagle, led the charge against Russell and Rutherford. You can visit the archives and dig out all sorts of remarkable revelations about these hucksters.
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Today, the tolerance of the public at large for wacky religious racketeering is rather high and it is difficult to shock anybody with revelations of malfeasance. TV evangelists and their money-mongering is old news.
Child molestation by priests is old news.
Doomsday cults with failed predictions are old news.
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What makes Scientology such an interesting subject is as others have commented here.

Science Fiction writers don't often invent religions based on Gnosticism and pure imagination.

Religious practitioners don't usually employ gizmos with galvanic skin response detectors to uproot and expose hidden demons.

Religious leaders don't usually hide from the limelight like Howard Hughes or make war against the I.R.S. and win!

Religious dissidents aren't usually imprisoned by their leaders for years at a time voluntarily!

How many religious centers in big cities have successfully co-opted the local police department?

Top box-office stars aren't usually spokesmen for religion.

And on and on. . .

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WILL this be New Light? Is the Watchtower preparing to say out loud, Jesus is Jehovah?

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk7ertncbsk

Terry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK7ErTnCbSk

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

The most iconic conspiracy theorist on Earth, David Icke shares his views on Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDwTJQuB_WI

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

And the hits just keep on comin'

http://www.startribune.com/carver-county-judge-seals-search-warrants-in-prince-death-investigation/377456111/

" Carver County judge sealed the search warrant in the investigation of Prince’s death.

The request was made by County Attorney Mark Metz. He stated in his request that the premature disclosure of the details contained in the warrant may compromise the law enforcement investigation by causing the search or related searches to be unsuccessful. He added the release of the information could also create a substantial risk of injury to an innocent person or persons or severely hamper the ongoing investigation.

“Due to Prince’s status of having been an iconic popular music superstar, there is and will be continued intense media scrutiny upon the manner and circumstances of Prince’s death,” Metz said in his argument to seal the warrant, and any related documents.

District Judge Eric Braaten ordered the document remain locked up until commencement of any criminal proceedings or 180 days from the date of Thursday’s order."

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

I said I would NOT post this until I saw it on DRUDGE REPORT.

Well, I just saw it.

Prince AIDS Death F

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/prince-dead-aids-cause-of-death/

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

sir827 hours ago

How did Michael Jackson get away with NOT being Disfellowshipped?

MJ was DF'ed in the 80's. Or disassociated. Either way, he was (or should have been) shunned by JWs.
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I have tried to find some kind of citation for the DF claim and have come up short. Do you have anything you could share?

michael jackson letter to elders 1987

Here is a pretty complete article:

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/michael-jackson-jehovah.php

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

I found this concerning Michael Jackson and Jehovah's Witnesses:

His make up artist for 30 years Karen Faye wrote on her blog:

"When Michael arrived for his photo shoot for THRILLER, two men accompanied him impeccably dressed in suits, who sat over to the side on some cushy couches and watched his every move.

Since this was the first time I worked with him, it didn’t feel appropriate for me to ask who they could possibly be. I thought if he wanted us to know, he would have told us. I just felt their presence throughout the entire day. They left with him as mysteriously as they had entered with him. At the time I really did not give it another thought, because I had no idea of the adventure that was ahead of me.

The next shoot, there again…a mysterious gentleman, sitting in the background.

As our working relationship and friendship began to grow, I asked. He explained to me he was a Jehovah’s Witness. He was very active with the church, and these gentlemen were monitors. They watched over him. He also explained he went to bible study, and spent time going door-to-door teaching the word each week. I had to take pause for a minute and think about that one….

THRILLER had been released by the time he was explaining this to me. “You mean to tell me, that you ring someone’s doorbell, they come to answer it, and there stands Michael Jackson??????” He gave me one of his hi pitched belly laughs…and said, “yeah”. He further explained that he does it in disguise.

“Oh no you don’t.”

Still giggling, he paused and got amusingly serious. “Yeah, sure. After they let me in, they usually begin to look at me funny, so I end up admitting who I am.”

“Wow, I wish I could be a fly on the wall and watch that. I still can’t believe you do that.” I said.

“It is a big part of being a Jehovah’s Witness. We also do not celebrate holidays or birthdays. We believe that we should honor and celebrate these things daily, and not have just one day.”

So I asked “No birthdays. No Christmas?”

“No” he replied.

“Isn’t that difficult, when the world around you is decorating and singing carols?”.

“Yes, Turkle…it is always kind of sad, especially when I was a child, because it looked like so much fun. But it is okay; we have things like FAMILY DAY, where we all get together. There are hundreds of Jackson’s and we all try and be there.”

I could genuinely see the sadness in his eyes and the sense his feeling of loss, not celebrating Christmas with the other kids…so I changed the subject.

One August 29th, we ended up working. Everyone was wishing him Happy Birthday and giving him little presents. He smiled and graciously accepted them. Once we were in the privacy of the trailer, he put the gifts down on the seat, and looked down at them.

“I wish people wouldn’t do that. Please promise me, Turkle, don’t EVER say Happy Birthday to me.”

We were shooting SMOOTH CRIMINAL. I was accustomed to the monitors by now. The filming was going on longer than planned, as usual. We were preparing for a very big scene. Michael was surrounded by the alien battalion in a gully, built on stage 14.

The special weapons and ammunition team had briefed Michael on how to hold the machine gun and fire it. It was the last scene of the evening. Michael was having fun with it, like a little boy playing army. He took a strong stance, and fired as the cameras rolled.

That was a wrap for that evening, and we were given our call time for the next morning.

Michael was a little late arriving the next day. I was waiting in his trailer. He walked in so distraught. I didn’t understand, we were having so much fun the night before. He was silent as he sat in the makeup chair. I had to ask him please tell me. Please tell me what is wrong.

His eyes welled up with tears. “Mother called last night. The church called her, and told her that I held and fired a gun yesterday. They ordered that I have to make decision. I must leave the church, or leave the entertainment industry.” He was weeping as he uttered those words.

I was quite mortified. “What did your mother advise you to do?”

“She felt horrible. She told me it was up to me. She said she would stand by me with whatever I decided.”

“I see, you are here today”.

“Yes”

“Mother is supporting my choice”.

It took a while for Michael to adjust to his choice. He continued to feel uncomfortable with his birthday, but attended fan events in his honor, and truly enjoyed them.

When I was around him during Christmas, he would hide in his own closet to secretly wrap presents. He still held a tinge of guilt. I knew it was difficult for him, but I know he loved all the decorations that NEVER came down. He could freely give his children the birthdays that he never had. I knew deep down inside the Jehovah Witness teachings continued to hold a sacred place inside of him. That is why I was forever torn by not saying “Happy Birthday”. He never released me from my promise to not say it to him."

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PRINCE's Playlist (Only for the curious)

by Terry in

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i'm so old, i can remember when these things were called mix tapes!https://drive.google.com/folderview?.

i've compiled the above into .mp3 below:.

id=0b6a8sp5_psf-mfrys0lxcvracwm&usp=sharing.

Terry

Thanks, Talesin.
My problem was that I was JW and a Nerd who never went to parties (except JW parties back in the day when such things existed.)
Even after leaving the Dubs, I never went to clubs or parties or bars.

Pop music didn't appeal to me.
Now that I am older, what Pop music represents to me is that "other" life I never led, or poetically: The Road Not Taken.

I can wax nostalgic when I listen to pop songs because they were everybody else's roadmap in their youth but I never formed emotional connections.

I listened to the entire Playlist, however. I downloaded every one of those files.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-TkkycGhYMm5NNG8/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-TWk2dDRDc2ZqQWc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-LU5FQVNuMFdwT2s/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-ZnpoTEM1TEM1dFU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-UTBWaWVXWHZkX3c/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-WXlydDRxb2E2QnM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-aVhDc2VMUHc3MGM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-MFc1SzF1Yjh2NVk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-Zl9xelIxRXJuYTg/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-S19MM0h0M3l0bFU/view?usp=sharing