pistolpete18 hours ago
Hey Terry, why don't you contact the person who told you this and see what he found out?
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I emailed him yesterday. We'll see what he might have to say.
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
Hey Terry, why don't you contact the person who told you this and see what he found out?
____
I emailed him yesterday. We'll see what he might have to say.
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
My "gut" feeling is that Tollie left for real medical reasons and the rumors about his apostasy were based on erratic behavior and dropping out.
Had he really apostatized, everyone would have heard from the horse's mouth an exact accounting of his reasoning on the matter.
I leave room for error. It's all arguable now.
in 1923 i almost died.
__________in 1923 i almost died.. allow me to explain .... on the day of my parole from seagoville federal correctional institution, i walked out of the entrance of the prison and my grandfather was waiting for me at the gate.. the last time i’d seen him was in 1967. today was 1969.. he looked older and i must have looked much skinnier.. i opened the door and climbed into the front passenger side.. there were no seat belts back then.. jack avery hybarger was a private man, very shy about looking into anyone’s eyes.. he bottled up his emotions.
we weren’t a family that hugs or says “i love you.”.
Thanks for the kind words.
I find that the only way I'll ever end up with an autobiography is if I write
an essay each day (more or less) and then assemble them later.
I skip around chronologically just to remain interested :)
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
I spoke last night to one of the Brothers who spoke to Tollie's widow, Carol.
He revealed to me that she said that for the last decade of his life he was having mental problems and his "apostasy" period was caused by health issues.
When I spoke with him on the phone he sounded the same as back in 1968.
Well, forgive me...but ...this "sounds" like a cover story. I apologize if it isn't.
She said he wasn't himself anymore. So maybe.
I don't know which a JW would prefer: an apostate or a mental illness.
Probably the same thing to them, eh?
after a conversation with hubby l started thinking about silly lyrics in songs , of which there are many .bang a gong by marc bolan is pretty daft , although apparently his lyrics are deep .
do you have any favourite daft lyrics?
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BEATLES again ...
(Chuck Berry sued John Lennon )
did you know that noah entered the ark in the end part of november and also that jesus' followers flead jerusalem around 25th of november 66ce?.
could it be that a significant group of jehovah's witnesses would begin to flee to the "wilderness" in the end of november?
revelation 12 speaks about a flight of a symbolic woman to a wilderness.
Imagine you just paid your rent.
You have a whole month until you have to pay again. You go to bed secure in that knowledge.
When you wake up the next morning you discover 11 days have been removed from the calendar and your rent will be due again only 20 days!
This is exactly what happened when the Julian Calendar was revised to the Gregorian calendar.
And why was it revised? So EASTER could be celebrated "correctly."
The last day of the Julian calendar was Thursday, 4 October 1582 and this was followed by the first day of the Gregorian calendar, Friday, 15 October 1582 (the cycle of weekdays was not affected).
So, that was that, eh? All settled? No way!
Each country (Protestant or Catholic) either complied or ignored Pope Gregory's revision.
This led to a wild discrepency between borders!
One family on the East side of a border could living a different day and month from a family living just on the West side!!
Depending on where you lived, a letter mailed which ordinarily took a week and a half to reach its destination might suddenly arrive the same day it was sent!
Let us ask ourselves a question: WHY would Protestants pay any attention to a Catholic Pope in the first place?
Catholics revised to the Gregorian calendar while many Protestants remained with the Julian Calendar!
Great Britain and the colonies in America did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752!
Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752.
What if you were living in Alaska?
In Alaska the change took place when Friday, 6 October 1867 was followed again by Friday, 18 October. This was after the US purchase of Alaska from Russia, which was still on the Julian calendar. Instead of 12 days, only 11 were skipped, and the day of the week was repeated on successive days!
Crazy, wacky, kooky--but . . .
So What?
Think about this.
When Jehovah's Witnesses start computing the "correct" day to observe this and that, they do so at the command of a CATHOLIC POPE!
As much as individual nations, tribes and religions have arbitrarily adopted (or not) completely arbitrary means of computing time, days, months and years---How could any reasonable person think it is even possible to know how many years have passed from event to another event?
Keep that upper most in your mind the next time the Watchtower starts mouthing off about dates and times in their cartoon chronology!
It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582
My attitude keeps me from taking anything seriously.
I am an absurd person. I see life as absurd.
Life isn't what happens - it's how you deal with what happens.
Except in the case of a bullet wound.
Happy activities: I ride my bike instead of driving a car.
Every time the price of gasoline goes up - I smile bigger.
I took the Stimulus check and bought an electric bicycle. I can go much farther
and not worry about getting back, or about steep hills.
I have an APP that shows me weather radar so I'm prepared.
I stay informed so I won't be ignorant - but - I don't argue with people
who are minimally informed (and only from one source.)
People who say and do provocative things - I try and avoid them and do not engage.
If forced to engage I remain calm and inquisitive.
I have abandoned the past (not wallowing in regrets). Today is enough.
All the above has to do with TEMPERAMENT.
I'm no good at worrying so I don't do it.
And that's what makes me happy: not seeing things as happiness destroyers.
after a conversation with hubby l started thinking about silly lyrics in songs , of which there are many .bang a gong by marc bolan is pretty daft , although apparently his lyrics are deep .
do you have any favourite daft lyrics?
.
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
I keep thinking about the recent ZOOM reunion of the prison Brothers I knew
and still love deeply ...
they are like abandoned luggage on an airport carousel waiting for Jah to grab their handle and take them home.
What a waste of life.
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
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