If I'm honest about my feelings back when I first encountered Jehovah's Witnesses (through my elementary school friend, Johnny) - I'd confess I was one of those
"un-churched" kids with a family that did NOT attend any religious services but
who had j-u-s-t enough Bible exposure to feel "spiritual" (whatever the hell that means.)
I understood the concept of JESUS but as far as JEHOVAH was concerned - I knew nothing.
In my years of indoctrination attending the Kingdom Hall, Jesus was crowded out of my heart. Instead of a starring role, he became a supporting actor.
Actual "love" of Jesus was not a part of my emotional toolkit.
As Hollywood scriptwriters will tell you, a mcguffin:
is necessary to the plot and the motivation of the characters, but insignificant, unimportant, or irrelevant in itself.
Jehovah is the superhero.
JW's, IMHO, are not Christians. They are Anti-Christ - but the rank and file simply don't even slightly suspect the bait-and-switch.
JW's aren't Bible readers either. They are cherry-pickers.
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21A "killer" question for Jehovah's Witnesses
by Terry inhere is a 'killer' question for jw's.
which description best describes how you see yourself and how you feel?which would you choose?
are you: 1. a christian 2. a jehovah's witness here's the scenario.
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A "killer" question for Jehovah's Witnesses
by Terry inhere is a 'killer' question for jw's.
which description best describes how you see yourself and how you feel?which would you choose?
are you: 1. a christian 2. a jehovah's witness here's the scenario.
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The purpose of my O.P. question is to confront the JW with LOYALTY to an organization in opposition to LOYALTY to Jesus.
If they called themselves Jehovah's Christian Witnesses the question would not be necessary. But they don't. (They tried it a very short while and then dropped it.)
It is Either / or.
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Help me figure out what to say...I'm not usually at a loss for words
by Terry inwell, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
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pistolpete18 hours ago
Hey Terry, why don't you contact the person who told you this and see what he found out?
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Help me figure out what to say...I'm not usually at a loss for words
by Terry inwell, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
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My "gut" feeling is that Tollie left for real medical reasons and the rumors about his apostasy were based on erratic behavior and dropping out.
Had he really apostatized, everyone would have heard from the horse's mouth an exact accounting of his reasoning on the matter.
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In 1923 - I almost died!
by Terry inin 1923 i almost died.
__________in 1923 i almost died.. allow me to explain .... on the day of my parole from seagoville federal correctional institution, i walked out of the entrance of the prison and my grandfather was waiting for me at the gate.. the last time i’d seen him was in 1967. today was 1969.. he looked older and i must have looked much skinnier.. i opened the door and climbed into the front passenger side.. there were no seat belts back then.. jack avery hybarger was a private man, very shy about looking into anyone’s eyes.. he bottled up his emotions.
we weren’t a family that hugs or says “i love you.”.
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Thanks for the kind words.
I find that the only way I'll ever end up with an autobiography is if I write
an essay each day (more or less) and then assemble them later.
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Help me figure out what to say...I'm not usually at a loss for words
by Terry inwell, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
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I spoke last night to one of the Brothers who spoke to Tollie's widow, Carol.
He revealed to me that she said that for the last decade of his life he was having mental problems and his "apostasy" period was caused by health issues.
When I spoke with him on the phone he sounded the same as back in 1968.
Well, forgive me...but ...this "sounds" like a cover story. I apologize if it isn't.
She said he wasn't himself anymore. So maybe.
I don't know which a JW would prefer: an apostate or a mental illness.
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Silly song lyrics
by jhine inafter a conversation with hubby l started thinking about silly lyrics in songs , of which there are many .bang a gong by marc bolan is pretty daft , although apparently his lyrics are deep .
do you have any favourite daft lyrics?
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BEATLES again ...
(Chuck Berry sued John Lennon )Here come old flat top
He come grooving up slowly
He got joo joo eyeball
He one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he pleaseHe wear no shoe shine
He got toe jam football
He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca-Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is you got to be freeCome together, right now, over meHe bag production
He got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard
He one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his diseaseCome together, right now, over meHe roller coaster
He got early warning
He got muddy water
He one mojo filter
He say, "one and one and one is three"
Got to be good looking 'cause he's so hard to seeCome together, right now, over meOhCome together, yeah -
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Could end of November be special?
by Kosonen indid you know that noah entered the ark in the end part of november and also that jesus' followers flead jerusalem around 25th of november 66ce?.
could it be that a significant group of jehovah's witnesses would begin to flee to the "wilderness" in the end of november?
revelation 12 speaks about a flight of a symbolic woman to a wilderness.
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Imagine you just paid your rent.
You have a whole month until you have to pay again. You go to bed secure in that knowledge.
When you wake up the next morning you discover 11 days have been removed from the calendar and your rent will be due again only 20 days!
This is exactly what happened when the Julian Calendar was revised to the Gregorian calendar.
And why was it revised? So EASTER could be celebrated "correctly."
The last day of the Julian calendar was Thursday, 4 October 1582 and this was followed by the first day of the Gregorian calendar, Friday, 15 October 1582 (the cycle of weekdays was not affected).
So, that was that, eh? All settled? No way!
Each country (Protestant or Catholic) either complied or ignored Pope Gregory's revision.
This led to a wild discrepency between borders!
One family on the East side of a border could living a different day and month from a family living just on the West side!!
Depending on where you lived, a letter mailed which ordinarily took a week and a half to reach its destination might suddenly arrive the same day it was sent!
Let us ask ourselves a question: WHY would Protestants pay any attention to a Catholic Pope in the first place?
Catholics revised to the Gregorian calendar while many Protestants remained with the Julian Calendar!
Great Britain and the colonies in America did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752!
Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752.
What if you were living in Alaska?
In Alaska the change took place when Friday, 6 October 1867 was followed again by Friday, 18 October. This was after the US purchase of Alaska from Russia, which was still on the Julian calendar. Instead of 12 days, only 11 were skipped, and the day of the week was repeated on successive days!
Crazy, wacky, kooky--but . . .
So What?
Think about this.
When Jehovah's Witnesses start computing the "correct" day to observe this and that, they do so at the command of a CATHOLIC POPE!
As much as individual nations, tribes and religions have arbitrarily adopted (or not) completely arbitrary means of computing time, days, months and years---How could any reasonable person think it is even possible to know how many years have passed from event to another event?
Keep that upper most in your mind the next time the Watchtower starts mouthing off about dates and times in their cartoon chronology!
It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582
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CHECK THIS OUT
https://www.catholic-forum.com/members/popestleo/g35MAR13-APR10.pdf
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My attitude keeps me from taking anything seriously.
I am an absurd person. I see life as absurd.
Life isn't what happens - it's how you deal with what happens.
Except in the case of a bullet wound.
Happy activities: I ride my bike instead of driving a car.
Every time the price of gasoline goes up - I smile bigger.
I took the Stimulus check and bought an electric bicycle. I can go much farther
and not worry about getting back, or about steep hills.
I have an APP that shows me weather radar so I'm prepared.
I stay informed so I won't be ignorant - but - I don't argue with people
who are minimally informed (and only from one source.)
People who say and do provocative things - I try and avoid them and do not engage.
If forced to engage I remain calm and inquisitive.
I have abandoned the past (not wallowing in regrets). Today is enough.
All the above has to do with TEMPERAMENT.
I'm no good at worrying so I don't do it.
And that's what makes me happy: not seeing things as happiness destroyers. -
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Silly song lyrics
by jhine inafter a conversation with hubby l started thinking about silly lyrics in songs , of which there are many .bang a gong by marc bolan is pretty daft , although apparently his lyrics are deep .
do you have any favourite daft lyrics?
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Who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong
Who put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop
Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip
Who was that man
I'd like to shake his hand
He made my baby fall in love with me (yeah)When my baby heard
"Bomp bah bah bomp bah bomp bah bomp bah bomp bomp"
Every word went right into her heart
And when she heard them singin'
"Rama lama lama lama, rama ding dong"
She said we'd never have to part
SoWho put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong
Who put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop
Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip
Who was that man
I'd like to shake his hand
He made my baby fall in love with me (yeah)Each time that we're alone
Boogity boogity boogity boogity boogity boogity shoo
Sets my baby's heart all aglow
And every time we dance to
Dip da dip da dip dip da dip da dip
She always says she loves me so
SoWho put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong
Who put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop
Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip
Who was that man
I'd like to shake his hand
He made my baby fall in love with me (yeah)