Check this thread out from about 8 years ago ...
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/286849/how-jehovahs-witness-participated-one-great-art-frauds-20th-century
Posts by Terry
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8Margaret Keane' the one time 'big eyes' wt illustrator, RIP.
by waton ina creative person that got a lift from her touch and riding the wave of wt "first love" involvement, when living in hawaii.
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anyone knows what happened in her later life?
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Fatness or Fitness?
by Terry ini don't know about you but as i get older (and older than older) my weight does not remain the same.when i was in my teens i wanted to be a (don't laugh) bodybuilder!i was too naive and over-eager to do it right.
i ate almost nothing.
i was six-four and weighed 160 lbs.yeah: scary.i lifted weights three times a day.yeah, knucklehead.. my firstborn daughter, on the other hand, will turn 52 in august and she has just started a youtube channel on fitnesshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/ucwusgjsr925o4u5sfbkczmg.
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I don't know about you but as I get older (and older than older) my weight does not remain the same.
When I was in my teens I wanted to be a (don't laugh) bodybuilder!
I was too naive and over-eager to do it right. I ate almost nothing. I was six-four and weighed 160 lbs.
Yeah: scary.
I lifted weights three times a day.
Yeah, knucklehead.
. My firstborn daughter, on the other hand, will turn 52 in August and she has just started a YouTube channel on FITNESS
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwusgjSr925o4U5sfBKczmgI get a lot of bicycle-related exercises almost daily (except for bad weather) and I haven't driven a car as primary transportation for 9 years! Sunshine, fresh air, elevated hills, and two meals a day are keeping me from being as disgusting as I would probably easily become otherwise.
I see SO MANY JW's of my vintage and they are coffin-ready, listless, bloated, and it is frightening to think it could have been me.
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IMHO the finest TV interview with Ex-JW's ever broadcast!
by Terry inquite effective and enjoyable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijzvt_jptx8&t=1306s.
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Watchtower July 22 - JWs being interrogated need to muzzle their mouths
by Listener inthe watchtower has printed a disturbing article about self control and gives this instruction to the r & f .
self-control also allows us to remain silent when opposers try to trick us into revealing things that could endanger our brothers and sisters.
this might occur when we are being interrogated by the police in a land where our work is banned or restricted.
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A phrase that can mean anything means nothing.
The SIGNS of the times are ALWAYS identifiable as NOW because they are always present
to be singled out and magnified for fear-mongering.
Jehovah's Witnesses have not seemed to notice that their leaders are resorting to an old retail trick
called the GOING OUT OF BUSINESS sale gimmick.
FOMO (fear of missing out) is a real grabber. The fear of End Times and Great Tribulation and Armageddon
is a sales gimmick.
The Kingdom Halls grow fat (for a while) and when a great big NOTHING happens - well, some leave but most
people have settled in and will not leave. Cognitive Dissonance takes hold and excuses are made.
I know about 50 JW's who are at least as old as I am (75) who are stuck like dinosaurs in the La Brea Tar Pit
who may struggle but who cannot free themselves.
They just "Wait on Jehovah" like "Waiting for Godot".
These ancient JW's have had practically NO LIFE AT ALL except the routines of meetings, service, self-reinforcement (fellowship), and overwork. They look awful and have no energy.
But you know what? The GB is still running that GOiNG OuT OF BUSINESS SALE like "this" time is different.
Last Days.
Last part.
Last part of the last part.
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"Jehovah God"
by Jeffro inthe expression "jehovah god" has always seemed strange to me.
even when i was a jw, i found the term awkward, and never used it myself.
both words are nouns intended to be synonyms of each other, unless the name "jehovah" is being used as an adjective, which is also weird.
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Once your ear adjusts to the constant rhythmic dit Duh dit Duh (Jehovah God) it becomes very natural.
Same thing with Christ Jesus instead of Jesus Christ.
Same as "torture stake" instead of Cross.
Same as Kingdom Hall instead of Church.
In fact, brainwashing wipes away what binds our conscious minds to a historical Christianity and REPLACES
everything with a CUCKOO'S EGG religious interloper cult.
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Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?
by Terry inall throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!
no jay sound.. .
why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?
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Joseph Franklin Rutherford was an odd duck who pretty much replaced Jesus as the star of the show with
a completely novel throwback REBRANDING for Christianity as Jehovah-ianity.
Did Rutherford get anything right?
Complete failures:
1. Allowing and promoting THE FINISHED MYSTERY
2. Agreeing to promote war bonds
3. Millions Now Living May - no wait! not "may" let's say WILL Never Die.
4. Predicting 1925
5. Building Beth Sarim AFTER the failure of 1925 and pretending it wasn't for himself.
6. Continuing with the Pyramid teaching for over a decade and then suddenly flipping
7. Complete script-flip on interpreting Romans 13
8. Letter to Hitler
9. Bullying Moyle and dragging his dirty laundry out in the open
10. Making a fetish out of alcohol and bellowing about how PROHIBITION was backed by Satan
11. Strutting around with 2 12 cylinder cadillacs
And so on ...
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Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?
by Terry inall throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!
no jay sound.. .
why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?
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Iloowy, goowy said: This silliness about insisting English speakers pronounce names in Hebrew not English, is for the birds.
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I feel that Jehovah's Witnesses IF THEY WERE SERIOUS scholars themselves, would make an "adjustment" toward being more accurate if, for no other reason, they have made a FETISH out of using the name.
Encyclopedia Britannica:
Early Christian writers, such as St. Clement of Alexandria in the 2nd century, had used a form like Yahweh, and this pronunciation of the tetragrammaton was never really lost. Many Greek transcriptions also indicated that YHWH should be pronounced Yahweh.
More "respectful" and more nearly accurate are not, however, to be expected of this organization. They are contrarian in every way possible to the point of absurdity.
The instance of "torture stake" is practically pathological, IMHO.
The elite Governing Body has never, ever been afraid of "taking the Lord's Name in vain" as evidenced by all the false prophecies they've published for over a hundred years. Always in the "name of Jehovah." -
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Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?
by Terry inall throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!
no jay sound.. .
why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?
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Waton, thank you!
I should have spent thirty seconds looking that up on Google! -
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Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?
by Terry inall throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!
no jay sound.. .
why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?
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So why do we call the Hebrew hero of Jericho Joshua and the Christian Messiah Jesus? Because the New Testament was originally written in Greek, not Hebrew or Aramaic. Greeks did not use the sound sh, so the evangelists substituted an S sound. Then, to make it a masculine name, they added another S sound at the end. The earliest written version of the name Jesus is Romanized today as Iesous.
The initial J didn’t come until much later.
That sound was foreign to Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. Note:
Not even English distinguished J from I until the mid-17th century.
Thus, the 1611 King James Bible refers to Jesus as “Iesus” and his father as “Ioseph.”
The current spelling likely came from Switzerland, where J sounds more like the English Y. When English Protestants fled to Switzerland during the reign of the Catholic Queen Mary I, they drafted the Geneva Bible and used the Swiss spelling. Translators in England adopted the Geneva spelling by 1769.
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Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?
by Terry inall throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!
no jay sound.. .
why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?
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**Correction**
Above I made the statement:
Jesus is very rarely DIRECTLY quoted in the NT in Aramaic.
He was not speaking Greek but the NT is (thanks to the 70 translators) written in Greek.
Remove the phrase inside the (parenthesis). The Septuagint translators only translated the O.T. not the N.T.
