if we have to have any hope of caring for enslaved minds, the real cupprit is the help literature, and their producers,....
in other words,...WTBTS and officials
love and peace
anuva
to me, jehovah's witnesses are the watchtower society.
i don't think you can seperate the 2. they are both inseperably joined, infact the wt defines how jws believe.
many here say they don't "hate" jws individually, just the society, ie the wt.. where in your personal opinion is the distinction drawn??
if we have to have any hope of caring for enslaved minds, the real cupprit is the help literature, and their producers,....
in other words,...WTBTS and officials
love and peace
anuva
i'll make this short, but i've been looking for answers and need actual human communication- not just a book or website.. up until 12/26/04, my "girlfriend" and i had been sneaking around to see each other.
we became professionals.
she would always say "i shouldn't be doing this" and such, but eventually that mindset wore away and our love took over.
u can always talk to me , or
PM me , to know what else to expect in course of your love .
.anuva
i'll make this short, but i've been looking for answers and need actual human communication- not just a book or website.. up until 12/26/04, my "girlfriend" and i had been sneaking around to see each other.
we became professionals.
she would always say "i shouldn't be doing this" and such, but eventually that mindset wore away and our love took over.
..it is absolutely painful , but your situation is almost like mine with just one but SIGNIFICANT difference...your girlfrind said it to you that she cannot defend her religion is a truth !!!
and about your dilemma my dear i can assure you , if you love deeply , it sucks almost all life out of you when you are coldblloded ly told by parents as thay told you .
and BTW i would like to tell you that i have left my love with one choice for her , WHETHER SHE LIKES OUR FUTURE WITH TRUTH AND HONESTY or she wants it to be based on RELIGION of HYPOCRISY and DECEPTION deep enought that it takes LIVES of people in the name of life giving BLOOD!!!
i have read jesus said somewhere in bible ,wherever 2 -3 are gathered in my name i am among them ....
i do not know how to say this to you as it had caused me immense pain ..but the truth is this that please visit the painful consequences of Accepting deception ..in the name of not losing family , and the cruelity that MAY....yes i repest MAY happen if u r illfated, otherwise you may just escape lighlty by attending ....and recording time reports....Be it child abuse , be it marital abuse , or be it blood transfusion suicide agreement .
on the path of truth , your Girflfriend should have to look back at all this and try to feel the pain of those VICTIMS who were thrown out for complaining against child abuse ...and those wives who were thrown out for complaining marital abuse .....read the painful stories, that may be SHE had compassion to stand for those people and decide on her own conscience that Goodness, and justice , and love and compassion is for ALL people , not those who become members of a 1879 born gorup of WTBTS..
and interestingly...u may tell her that BIBLE is not a slave of WTBTS..in same chapter where WTBTS indoctrinates young people ...to ..."marry in the lord"...it is also written that if any of husband or wife is a beleiver in HIM the family is blessed .....
..how can bible APPLY to 1879 born group, and if it does , to whom does it applied before 1879!!
i know it is painful .....
and mind control will take over your love ...
family FEAR may control her to surrender the truth and justice and honesty in feet of wTBTS ....
love and peace
anuva
hey folks,.
an era in the ex-jw history is over.
kent steinhaug's site http://watchtower.observer.org is being shut down.. it was the first of it's kind, and to this day probably still the largest anti wt site on the net.
.. US$ 50 from my side ....i live in INDIA....i have got an INTERNATIONAL DEBIT CARD ...never used it For funds transfer !! if anybody can help to suggest
anuva
this was sad for me , the very moment i opened the site , this thread caused me pain ........... .
watchtower observer site goes down by norm ...... sad i am because this seems to be the defeat of truth , may be momentarily, but it is a setback , before judging jws and wtbts what they claim themselves to be , all innocent people should be given a chance to discover what was the past of the claims.... and that is why io am sad , this balance of information is being snatched away , .
i would like to suggest contribution of necessary money for keeping up the required 1000$ for a month.. i am ready for my part of contribution , knowing it well that what i mean will only be successful if we all like minded people join hands .... pm me if any thing of that sort is arranged for.... god and truth existed much before wtbts was even born .
was it you randy ...
the one who hosted WTBTS cult busting site ?
will this mean we will allow this site to go down ....
i am sad only few people showed their interest ....in this thread ..
the indifference is PAINFUL..
if anytime it happens that i can contribute anything ..i may please be PM about that .
anuva
this was sad for me , the very moment i opened the site , this thread caused me pain ........... .
watchtower observer site goes down by norm ...... sad i am because this seems to be the defeat of truth , may be momentarily, but it is a setback , before judging jws and wtbts what they claim themselves to be , all innocent people should be given a chance to discover what was the past of the claims.... and that is why io am sad , this balance of information is being snatched away , .
i would like to suggest contribution of necessary money for keeping up the required 1000$ for a month.. i am ready for my part of contribution , knowing it well that what i mean will only be successful if we all like minded people join hands .... pm me if any thing of that sort is arranged for.... god and truth existed much before wtbts was even born .
.its nice to see that some of you started to think.....though i have never been witness......
but i have almost lost my dearest girlfriend to WTBTS, almost , and only a miracle would bring her back to me ,
for information sake , i would like to tell , i currently live in ASIA , and in asia , i live and earn in INDIA, do not have internet connection , but access at cyber Cafe, but thank to god, ...i earn enough to contribute to make myself count against DECEPTION OF WTBTS .
waiting ..
anuva
anybody who can connect and build network may please take the lead
the hospital chaplain just called.
my baby's body has been returned to the hospital following post-mortem examination at a specialist children's hospital.
so, the funeral can go ahead soon.. we have opted for a cremation.
you may not know me , but i feel compelled to contribute..fe2o3 girl
for first time in last decade , i feel i do not have anything to say to you ....i feel so sad inside, but i can praise you for your heart's courageousnes
may peace be with you
anuva
this was sad for me , the very moment i opened the site , this thread caused me pain ........... .
watchtower observer site goes down by norm ...... sad i am because this seems to be the defeat of truth , may be momentarily, but it is a setback , before judging jws and wtbts what they claim themselves to be , all innocent people should be given a chance to discover what was the past of the claims.... and that is why io am sad , this balance of information is being snatched away , .
i would like to suggest contribution of necessary money for keeping up the required 1000$ for a month.. i am ready for my part of contribution , knowing it well that what i mean will only be successful if we all like minded people join hands .... pm me if any thing of that sort is arranged for.... god and truth existed much before wtbts was even born .
this was sad for me , the very moment i opened the site , this thread caused me pain ..........
Watchtower Observer site goes down by Norm .....
sad i am because this seems to be the defeat of truth , may be momentarily, but it is a setback , before judging JWs and WTBTs what they claim themselves to be , ALL innocent people should be given a chance to Discover what Was the past of the claims...
and that is why io am sad , this balance of information is being snatched away ,
i would like to suggest contribution of necessary money for keeping up the required 1000$ for a month.
i am ready for my part of contribution , knowing it well that what i mean will only be successful if WE all LIKE minded people JOIN hands ...
PM me if any thing of that sort is Arranged for...
God and TRUTH existed much before WTBTS was even born
hoping for the better
anuva
hey folks,.
an era in the ex-jw history is over.
kent steinhaug's site http://watchtower.observer.org is being shut down.. it was the first of it's kind, and to this day probably still the largest anti wt site on the net.
.............i feel there are enough good hearts here that can contribute to keep up much more than required 1000 $ required to KEEP the TRUTH stand UP ..
can we contribute, there are enough members to support watchtower observer and its righteousness alive ?
PM me for any sort of contribution that can be made ..to rejuvinate Truth
anuva
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may be the inevitable happened , my girlfrind surgically cut me down to ..nothing, by saying , jehovahs witness can never do a thing against bible and god, .
i am gettting ....information from wrong sources.......and she reduced to ashes 2 years to deep love and affection , by saying ....i am worldly ...i am against god and bad..... i am sorry jgnat i choose to be overoptimistic when u told me about that meaning of ..poem ...."amends" and hard hitting stuff about 'apostates' during christmas time.. i still beleive that there is some life leftin me to try ..may be she comes to sense..she may understand... a girl so kind and loving ..... rejected by mother ....and abused sexually by father ....taken as maid by grandmother as maid.....preyed upon by jw love bombing...during her troubled teen years ..... i thought my selfless love will win her from chains....but i have almost thrown out .... may i request from some women who may if they like to help me can write to her email , cause maybe hearing from a former jw may help her realize the truth....that i was not lying..... please pm me ..i need help for sake of truth.. anuva- sad and down ....but still trying to work up ..
i understand the feeling of advise you were trying to share with me ,
but somehow the fact remains that ONLy GOd caused ..me and her to come together .....it was absolutely a chance encounter ......
and i am still in hope ....hope that if she ever gives me her 1 hour of life ..and she talks to me FACE to FACE......i can assure you she will REALISe where she is TRYING to go ...
but the most unfortunate part is that ..she had blocked up almost ..she started saying ..do not email me forever, though she still responds to my ` 100 or so email requests to talk to me at least then decide ...
i hope and pray for best ....
anuva