god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .
i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.
god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!
Rex,
Why does God allow or do, this and that"? It's all a moot point since He determines each of our life spans and WHO He calls to salvation.
If God has already predetermined who He will call to be saved, why would it matter what you say or do to help us "poor worthless uncalled unbelievers". It must make feel special to have been called by God.
baja
dear all,.
it is with much regret that i have decided to leave jw.com.
it is not a decision i have made lightly, in fact i had been thinking about it for many weeks now.. i am leaving because i cannot be a part of a forum that condones abuse and deliberate offensiveness towards other posters.
Sometimes it rains, sommetimes it pours. In the end it's all ying and yang.
See ya in a couple of weeks.
baja
i know that this has been done before, but i am new to the board and i would like to get an idea of where everyone is located.
as an aside .... plesantries or animosities, moderators or no, i am grateful to have this board.
bobsgirl
South Central Montana just about a mile or so from the mighty Yellowstone River.
baja
the thread about people leaving has made me think of the 7 years i have been on the net and participated in various witness and ex-witness e-mail groups or discussion boards.. in these years i have seen many a person, which for various reasons come and go from such forums.
there are of course as many opinions as there are people and in such diverse groups there will always be debates about every conceivable subject there is.
people who come out of the watchtower society seems as a group particularly ill equipped to deal with disagreements and strong debates but of course some more than others.
NORM,
GOOD POINTS.
BAJA
my mother sent this to me and i had a good chuckle.
i thought maybe a few of you could use a good laugh too.. .
nuns at the football game .
Hey I'm from Montana! Your right it's not hell, but you can see it from here.
baja
on tuesday, august 4, 2001 at 3:42.a.m.
mst, duane floyd checketts, 77 died in his sleep due to complications from pneumonia.
he is survived by his wife bette and two children, douglas checketts, patty smith, and 8 grandchildren.. duane, who was fondly called duke by everyone who knew him was born in farmington, utah on march 8, 1924. his father floyd, was one of 10 children raised in a tiny house built by his own mormon father who immigrated in the early 1860's from birmingham, england.
Farkel,
Thank you for sharing your father's life story. I would like to extend my condolences to you. I wish you peace.
baja
god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .
i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.
god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!
SixofNine,
AMEN.
baja
god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .
i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.
god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!
This thread brings out why I dislike the way Christians think. They can justify anything, so they can keep everything in a neat little faith package.
If the premise is that God has the three O's, and that IS a requirement for Him to be God Almighty in the first place, then all things are withing His sphere of influence. He allows Satan and evil to go only as far as He wills it but He does not initiate evil. So there is 'determination' and 'allowance' but all is under His ultimate control. 'Free will' is actually minimal.
Rex
By your own words you convict your God. First you say He allows evil to go only as far as He wills. Think about that statment, so if he really cared or loved man he would stop it. Next you say everything is under His ultimate control, and that people's free will is minimal. So what your saying is that people are pawns, and the players cause people to sin
Do you have any chidren? I hope God dosen't go into a rampage any time soon. He might just decide your block is full of evil (may I add that according to you, he created in the first place) and have you all put to the sword.
Sick of all forms of mind control, JW and otherwise.
baja
P.S. If God knows all things, He would of known the outcome of all his actions. So why would He create Satan? Your belief would make Him responsible for every act of evil that has ever taken place.
ok this has nothing to do with being a jw or anything of that nature but it is important to me and i need some help:.
here goes i have been drinking rum and coke (bacardi) since i can remember and finally realized that maybe it is contributing to my severly harsh hangovers.
so i went on a quest in search of a new drink.
Shots of Tequila to bring out the in ya!
baja
perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
You know, you said this in the 'Could you clarify this for me thread'
It is not uncommon for people to take a verse here and there and construct an entire doctrine out of it.
So how does this sit with the WTS 'explanation' of Luke chapter 12 verse 42 "Who is the faithful & discreet slave?".Hoist by your own petard, You Know.
It must really suck when you shoot yourself in the head with your own words.
ozziepost, you have my vote for thread MVP.
baja
