Posts by ballistic

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It has been postulated that all humans share a single common ancestoral mother. This is called the Eve Hypothesis. The evidence is based upon the genetic analysis of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA); a form of DNA which follows only the maternal line. Scientists have found that all humans presently alive share identical mtDNA. This leads to the conclusion that all humans presently alive have descended from one, common to all, female ancestor. Estimates are that she lived approximately 150,000 to 200,000 years ago.
I'm coming up with more and more stuff like this. I'm not an expert, but it seems compelling (particularly the statistical evidence).
Some of the articles admit there to be controversy in differing viewpoints. I'm glad for your feed-back, what is your belief based on?

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Incest - when did it become a bad thing??

by pandora in

jw
friends

in the beginning, if there were only two humans and they had kids, how did the kids have kids if not through incest?

my question is this.

when did that become unexceptable?

ballistic

I found some excellent links regarding the Adam and Eve of evolution:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rjh9u/adameve.html

there is also a link on that page to the statistical evidence of a common ancestor.

p.s. I'm getting carried away these ideas on common ancestors, I realise it is only loosly connected to the incest question, but it remains a fact that if we all come from one set of parents, there was incest there somewhere. It also means we're all related, so shall we start calling people bro and sis? lol.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Incest - when did it become a bad thing??

by pandora in

jw
friends

in the beginning, if there were only two humans and they had kids, how did the kids have kids if not through incest?

my question is this.

when did that become unexceptable?

ballistic

2 places I've found so far...
This book:
Concepts of Genetics
by William S. Klug, Michael R. Cummings (Contributor)
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The fifth edition continues to reflect the editors' belief that classical studies of heredity should initiate the text. Sections cover transmission genetics, bacterial and phage genetics, and extranuclear inheritance; genetic.

And this web site:
http://www.anusha.com/lucy.htm

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Incest - when did it become a bad thing??

by pandora in

jw
friends

in the beginning, if there were only two humans and they had kids, how did the kids have kids if not through incest?

my question is this.

when did that become unexceptable?

ballistic

yeah, I'll have a look tommorrow for you.
So far my searches for Adam and Eve brought up several porn sites and this, but it's too technical for me...

).... The ANT-C is separated from the BX-C by some
10cM on Drosophila chromosome III. It contains five protein-coding genes
including Deformed (Dfd), Sex combs reduced (Scr), and Antennapedia (Antp).
These genes control development of parasegments 0 and 1 (Dfd), 2 and 3
(Scr), and 4 and 5 (Antp). As with genes in the BX-C, the linear order of
genes in the ANT-C corresponds to their pattern of expression along the body
axis. This organization of both the ANT-C and BX-C is not likely to be
serendipitous,

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Incest - when did it become a bad thing??

by pandora in

jw
friends

in the beginning, if there were only two humans and they had kids, how did the kids have kids if not through incest?

my question is this.

when did that become unexceptable?

ballistic

Geneticists can prove scientifically that we all came from one pair of humans, in the same kind of genetic studies which trace families of virus. This would point to the fact that there was not either evolution en-mass occurring across the primates, or that the survival of the fittest concept gradually spread succsesively stronger genes throughout the population. The theory of "punctuated equalibrium" would seem to be compatible with this.
Scientists actually nick name our original pre-decessors "Adam & Eve".
Therefore, I think it stands to reason that whether you believe in creation, or evolution, there was a time when incest was not only "allowed" but the only option available.

Strange subject anyway!!!

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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For Ballistic: Society Distorts Sir Fred Hoyle

by Maximus in

jw
friends

hey, ballistic!.

i'm fascinated by your earlier post about sir fred hoyle.

for years the society has misquoted this great astronomer and human being, and that has bugged me no end.

ballistic

God, I thought you were joking.
In his honour then...

Big enough to bury Darwin
Lee Elliot Major looks at the theories that secured Sir Fred Hoyle's reputation as one of the 20th century's leading scientists

Guardian Unlimited

Thursday August 23, 2001

Three ground-breaking scientific debates played a part in securing the reputation of Sir Fred Hoyle, who died this week aged 86, as one of the founding fathers of cosmology, the most creative astrophysicist of his time, and the greatest scientific rebel of the late 20th century.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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For Ballistic: Society Distorts Sir Fred Hoyle

by Maximus in

jw
friends

hey, ballistic!.

i'm fascinated by your earlier post about sir fred hoyle.

for years the society has misquoted this great astronomer and human being, and that has bugged me no end.

ballistic

Thanks for your reply.
It's one thing to say something is out of context, but when you hear it from the horses mouth, it's absolutely blinding.
I won't (and haven't for 8 years) be doing any door knocking though, so I'm unlikely to pay a "return visit"!!! lol
I do remember thinking at the time, when we placed the book with him (which he hadn't even seen) how these people must feel when they see their life-long work twisted and mis-construed.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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