I'm glad I've got people thinking about it rather than the occasional god vs evolution. There's so much more down the rabbit hole of meditating on your senses and whether there is a real observer called "YOU" at the heart of it that exists at all.
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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Some have described the Anthropic principle which is true but doesn't fit every situation. Others describe that the physical parameters of a substance in liquid form are affected by the physical parameters of a solid. OK. The chipmonk wouldn't survive if it was meditating on the fact it may not be in a "real" world. True. It absolutely is a survival critical thing to see the world as we normally do, totally true, but does not explain if, as a matter of fact, we can really be sure there is a real world out there or not, when you really analyse this.
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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The chipmunk perceives the world and reacts to it
How does the chipmonk know that what is coming in through his senses, and presumably creating a model of the outside world for him to observe, is really coming in from the outside and not just made up in his head?
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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I knew there was going to be at least one heckler.
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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Yes Blondie, the thread hasn't gone at all the way I imagined. My ponderings were influenced by it being trendy to talk about the universe as a "Simulation" at the moment (tiktok, various forums, memes, etc) there's also much talk of quantum mechanics on some other forums and how nothing is solid, thus blurring the lines between whether something like a simulation actually has to be "solid" in any regard other than perception, and finally I've been reading a lot of Eastern Religion and existentialism, so I'm interested to know, if I'm projecting the universe "out there", how could I tell that is the case, or even likely?
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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HereIam60 This is somewhat close to me current beliefs even though I didn't mention it in the question. A kind of existentialism which sounds like Eastern Philosophy where we are not separate from creation, but creating by looking, and when you look for yourself in this reality / dream, we find there is no self.
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Probability of Earth and life being how it is
by ballistic inthere are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.
but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
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There are some things we don't know about existence and whether the Earth is a simulation or even a creation. But we can do some statistical analysis on it.
The probability of a planet like Earth existing in the Goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.
- The habitable zone (or Goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.
Add to this the possibility that an intelligent civilisation has existed which builds knowledge of science to understand such concepts in an evolving universe is even more unlikely. (The moon is slowly moving away from the Earth).
The Earth's moon is unique in its ability to cause total solar eclipses.
The probability of a moon having the right size and orbital characteristics to cause total eclipses is considered low.
Why choose the Moon's eclipses as part of this? Because it is our only moon, and clearly visible to everyone on the planet. If you wanted to design a planetary system and put a "signature" out there for everyone to see (more visible than the pyramids for example), choose the moon.
By the way this is just a thought experiment.
Using AI to work out some probabilities for me, the result came in (not entirely complete) but as follows:
- Let's assume the probability of a planet being in the Goldilocks zone is 1 in 100 (a rough estimate based on the size of the habitable zone relative to the total space in a star system).
Let's assume the probability of a moon causing total solar eclipses is 1 in 1000 (a rough estimate based on the complexity of the moon's orbit and size requirements).- Let's assume the probability of intelligent life developing science is 1 in 1000 (another rough estimate).
Multiplying these probabilities: 1/100 * 1/1000 * 1/1000 = 1 in 10,000,000,000 (or 1 in 10 billion).- However, this is a very rough estimate and doesn't account for the dependencies between the events.
I'm not entirely happy with AI's calculation, for example, if the moon is moving away from us, our evolution would have to start at exactly the right moment (complete with various extinctions and so on) that we came to a scientific knowledge of the solar system and eclipses right when we did. This would make the chances even more remote.
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Changed View of Post Armageddon and Paradise Conditions ?
by HereIam60 inwhen i first came into contact with jehovah's witnesses they were talking about god's kingdom bringing about a peaceful new world.
the scripture used being psalm 37:10,11 "just a little while longer and the wicked will be no more.you will look at where they were and they will not be there., but the meek will possess the earth and they will find exquisite delightin the abundance of peace..".
i took this to mean, then, that when jehovah intervened, at his appointed time, it would be instantly, invisibly, and painlessly.
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Many years ago there was a free leaflet with people restoring paradise on the front and in the picture, a JCB!
I remember feeling cheated with that, because everyone knows that a JCB is a product of it's time and relies on numerous industries, processes, knowledge, manufacturing capabilities. To build one JCB, you would require literally hundreds of advanced industries and the educated people to run and work in the factories and facilities.
Hardly paradise. Back to the grind.
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News of fires out of control in California
by ballistic inhope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
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Hope everyone near to the region affected in California is ok. It's shocking to hear of the destruction. These affected areas are some of the places I visited when I came on a tour of the US. Malibu, Santa Barbera, LA, Santa Monica, Hollywood and so on.
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Elders, Jews and Dead Bunnies
by KalebOutWest ini thought i would give my personal experience on who i am, how i came into the world of watchtower, why i left, etc.
this would explain a lot about the answers i give and why they don't directly reflect my personal convictions (like a normal person--and i do mean that literally, kinda).
i cannot put everything here, but i can start bit by bit.. when i was 17 years old, my mother was on her third marriage and kinda starting her fourth (as she was dating this surfer dude-like guy who wasn't even 5 years older than me).
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I would have called this...
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"2 Elders, Jews and Dead Bunnies, four weddings and a funeral" ;)