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  Does any one know what C T Russell died from??

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i know the wt has said why knorr and rutherford died but not russell.

  this omission seems somewhat strange, being that he was so prominant his followers would naturally be curious as to the cause of death of their beloved leader.

  here is a clip from 1916 12/1/1916 wt concerning his death no mention of what caused it.. http://www.ctrussell.us/.

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  Sweetp0985

  Maybe Rutherford ordered a hit on him. Gave him a tainted hot toddy. Sorry just in a bad mood right now...
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  POST YOUR REALLY HARD JW QUESTIONS HERE SO I CAN CALL BRANCH

  by tresbella in

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  i plan to call up the branch office and pose as an 'interested one' and ask a bunch of difficult questions i am almost positive no jw witness will be able to ansewr.

  1. if the supposed "light is getting brighter" then does that not mean that it is possile that many of the teachings that the society is teaching now may be false such as blood transfusions and the 1914 teaching?

  2. since any witness who speaks against the wt and refutes one of their teachings and is therefore disfellowshipped for it, what if the very teaching that they spoke against turned out to be wrong later on?

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  Tresbella good luck on your quest, but I seriously doubt you'll get past 3 or 4.....They'll probably do like most JW's do and determine you're an apostate and end the convo. Or try to get your address so you can enjoy a wonderful home bible study....
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  Can a JW be a professional boxer? Yes.

  by Leolaia in

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  bobby vanzie

  alias: viper.

  category: lightweight.

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  Sweetp0985

  Why are you guys tripping? He's probably in the same congregation with Prince, and the Williams' sisters. As long as he's "giving" to the WWW he's gonna be ok.
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  BRAINWASHING ON BLOOD ISSUE FROM SUNDAY'S WT

  by tresbella in

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  its funny how when you are someone who has grown up a jw you take everything you read in the wt and awakes as fact.

  you are never taught to discern or analyze what you read.

  and when the society speaks of 'doing research is always in the bond volumes or other lit.

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  Actually IMHO from reading CoC(not finished yet) they probably have been realized the error of starting this doctrine but as Ray Franz noted for the sake of the numerous people that have died already because of this policy they don't see the need of stopping this practice for it will make it seem as all the ones that have died already, died for no reason. But yet you will let others continue to die to save face. How come when the borg was first started they were getting transfusions and the like but then said ok let's stop doing that. Then so many were dying (loss of income for WTS) they said ok, let them use other solutions to take the place of blood....Now they allow the use of parts of blood but call me stupid sue if its a part of blood, doesn't it come from BLOOD. Excuse my example for any that may be offended but that's like telling a muslim you can eat a pulled pork sandwich because it's such a small portion of pork, Ummmm it's still pork. My bad I forgot most JW's still deep in the borg don't think in that way. I think I read somewhere else too that a blood substitute that's now allowed comes from cow's blood. Maybe they're thinking because it from a cow its lesser than human blood.

  blood = blood = blood parts = blood = cow's blood = blood = blood

  Sooner are later they are gonna have no other choice but to admit they were wrong and start allowing blood transfusions, but maybe they're hoping those 8000 still partaking at the memorial will be gone to the "upper room" by then so they won't have to change the policy. Or they keep changing it little by little and then when they finally can't change it anymore, they will say Jehovah has given them new light on the matter and he didn't mean they couldn't have a transfusion he just meant don't eat it or drink it. Only time will tell.
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  wierd JW sister experience

  by AuSet in

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  i was walking in uptown mpls on hennipen ave....last weekend, with my jw sister, her jw boyfriend, and my fiance..... there was this lady sitting on a park bench reading what looked like a new awake rather conspicuously , i was about to yell out to her "are you counting your time or what?

  " when i noticed a small table she had set up on the sidewalk with some very old jw wts on it, and some other old literature..... my sister sees it and quickly sidesteps it as though she had been shocked...and she said to her jw bf while sucking in her breath loudly "ooooo....that's apostate literature.

  wait a second...i said loudly....am i to understand that you just called the jws own literature apostate?

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  I think they're nervous because alot of "disobediant" dubs have been "cruising" the internet and finding alot of interesting things out about the good ole borg. I'm just waiting to see what happens.
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  ELDER MEETING NIGHTMARES!!!!!

  by tresbella in

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  ahhh!

  those dreaded elders meetings!

  was it something as serious as someone heard from bro.

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  1914 you're partially wrong!!!!

  Jehovah's holy spirit directed them to join the UN to use the library! But unfortunately "new light" showed them the error of their ways. Ironically this new light came at the same exact time the Guardian article came out. But they only joined to use the library to do research on Babylon the Great Harlot and to do this they had to get CLOSE to her....REALLY REALLY CLOSE (visualizing the South Park cartoon with Satan and Saddam Husain in the bed)
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  September 1,2004 WT Beware The Voice of Strangers

  by Wolfy in

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  i managed to get my scanner working on another pc.

  i'm not sure about the policy about posting scans of watchtowers here so if you want me to send you the scans let me know.

  the scans are in a zip file which is password protected.

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  Sweetp0985

  In Galatians chapter 1 and verse 8, the Apostle Paul emphasizes how important it is that we do that. Notice Galatians chapter 1 verse 8. Here, Paul stresses what we need to do if someone presents to us a teaching that doesn't fit into the pattern of truth that's been given to us. Here he says, "However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed."

  [23:23] So friends, hypothetically, and I repeat, hypothetically, even if an angel were to come down here and land on this platform, today, at this moment, and to present something to us that didn't fit into the pattern of truth, what should we be ready to do? We should be ready to say, " Hold on there, that doesn't fit into the pattern, and I am not going to listen to it!" Yes, even if it were one of Jehovah's angels.

  **"Do not forget to entertain strangers,
  for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it."
  Hebrews 13:1 [NIV]

  So WTS is basically saying if an angel of Jehovah were to approach you (they think any and all spirits are demons anyway), and tell you something outside of their WTS ways of teaching to not listen to them. But the bible says, "Do notforget to entertain strangers", so they are telling you to disregard the bible?

  Ok I mentioned it on another post (so many I can't remember which one) but I'm currently reading CoC and every day I come on this board and find out some piece of informtion that I can see plain as day as a false teaching that they are condemning every other religion/church for but they are doing the same damn thing. I am really at the highest point of pissivity (if that is a word) right now and want to go picket the local KH's here but I'm too well known and my parents would disown me further than they already have. BTW my mom told me that yesterday, "you're not my daughter until you respect me = come back to JW organization" but she spent the night at my demonic non-JW believing apt. Whenever I bring this up she says she staying there to encourage my brother who was never baptized but has recently started going to the KH but still agrees with me on alot of issues. He really doesnt care but he goes to keep moms and pops happy.
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  The Watchtower magazine kind of sucks...

  by Obviously Secret in

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  i was at the meeting the other day and this brother gave a really really good talk (waits for the stones and sticks to be thrown at him).

  but seriously it was a very good talk just because it was a good talk.

  he actually talked about jesus and different things and he talked about very deep issues and he brought it out great.

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  I see I wasn't the only one with my body in a KH that Sunday. The public talk that was given that Sunday was very wishy washy. At first it was going ok about giving Jehovah glory which all need to do. But then he started talking about only the JW's give God glory properly and they're the only ones giving him true glory. OOOOKKKKK.

  But in reference to the Watchtower study for that day. I saw it as passing the collection plate without the "literal" collection plate. I'm still silently counting down the days until "new light" comes and tithing is initiated (sp).
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  Coming up for air...

  by SwampThing in

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  good morning forum members,.

  for those of you who have left the cult, how do you deal with the self-righteous, holier-than-thou, nose-in-the-air arrogance of the wts and those mindless zombies who bow to its every command?.

  i am currently halfway through crisis of conscience.

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  Swamp Thing I'm currently reading CoC also and its very eye-opening. I have In Search of Christian Freedom waiting at home to be read next. I tried to explain something as simple as the UN scandal to my JW mom and she just blew up. I tried to use a illustration and she still got mad. The truth really hurts I guess.

  Ex. used...If you constantly told your son/daughter not to go to next door neighbor;s house because they were evil and you constantly non-stop always told them this and then one day your son/daughter sees you over there, what do you think that child is going to think? A normal person would say something like "if i was that child I would think what's wrong with you for going to that evil house, or it must be OK to go to that house now"....My mom got hysterical saying I need to keep my thoughts to myself. One day their eyes will be open. I'm not going to tell them anything else I find.
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  The Time Travel Tale of John Titor -- Brilliant Internet Hoax?

  by Country Girl in

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  if any of you are bored and want to read a very fascinating tale of what i think is one of the more interesting internet hoaxes, there is the story of john titor.

  the web site says:

  "although there is debate over the exact date it started, on november 02, 2000, a person calling themselves timetravel_0, and later john titor, started posting on a public forum that he was a time traveler from the year 2036.

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  Sweetp0985

  The year 2036!!!! Darn you mean still no "PARADISE" by then. Awww rats....