Posts by Sweetp0985

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Celebrating Birthdays--Disfellowshipping Offense--Where stated in WT pubs?

by blondie in

blondis is asking for help.

where does it state that if a jw celebrates a brithday that it is a disfellowshipping offense.

i have searched and searched.

Sweetp0985

4/15 Awake or Watchtower, I can't remember which one, says it now a conscience matter to celebrate your b-day or not..

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Since JWs Never Helped Anyone But Themselves, What Do You Do 4 People?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we, as witnesses were taught to believe that our giving the "truth" to people was the most important gift we could give!

forget about giving money to charities or helping any other group out----we needed to give them the "real life".

do you find yourself giving back to the community or to others now that you're out?

I started out by giving donations to United Way. Then I progressed to donating plasma, mostly because I needed the little money they gave you for donating but I was helping out other people too...Now I just donate blood...I feel better donating blood too because I get no compensation for it. The only thing is they call and hassle me sometimes to come and donate because my type of blood can be used for more people(O positive). I try to go as much as I can but I'm very busy most of the time. My JW mom had a hissy fit when she found out I was donating plasma, now she has cows whenever I tell her I just finished donating blood. When I got my driver's license renewed last month I also became an organ donor.......

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Is the Watchtower Part of the "Antichrist"?

by metatron in

in the apostle john's day, a variety of religious sects appeared in christian congregations called the gnostics.. many of these gnostics thought that matter and flesh were bad and anything 'spirit' was good, so they believed.

that jesus couldn't have been flesh and blood.

so, john condemned them , in his letters, as the "antichrist" because.

Sweetp0985

This is kinda off topic but I just had to post it somewhere....Talking to my JW mom this morning and she asked me about coming to the meeting on Sunday. To which I replied...no I don't think I'll be coming back there anytime soon. I don't have no reason to come there. To this she replied," Are trying to be 'antichrist'? An I was like "WHAT"??? Are you trying to be antichrist...going against Jehovah's organization or in opposition to Jehovah is antichrist. This totally pissed me off being that it was early in the morning and I was on my way to work anyway but I told her, "antichrist means against Jesus and I love Jesus and not against him. And you saying I'm against Jehovah's organization would mean that I'm an 'antiJehovah" which I'm not that either because I love Jehovah/God (same person). She then said "Tasha you really need to do some research" I said,"the reason I don't and never want to come back to the KH is because I HAVE BEEN DOING RESEARCH (yes I hollered)...and my research shows that you may actually be the antichrist. I then got the poor Tasha you're so confused bit. I ended with just telling her she really needs to do some research and not me.....

After about 15-20 mins. the phone rang again and I knew it was her because no one calls this early in the morn. She called back to tell me she still loved me and she hopes one day she'll see me back at the KH. I told her I loved her too.( I was still pissed about being called an antichrist/antiJehovah because I don't want to be a JW again?

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Now you dont believe the Bible , which characters sound dodgy?

by sleepy in

when you stop believing the bible to be the word of god the motives behind the actions of gods prophets and followers come across rather differently.

in fact much like fundlmentlists today.you have joshua comiting genocide , and paul moving in and tacking control of the christians and changing the religion to his own beliefs.

which other characters actions can be interpreted differenly when you see them just as ordinary humans with more selfish motives?

Sweetp0985

Speaking of Noah and the Ark...if all the earth flooded and no creatures/animals survived except those in the ark, what about all these little bitty ass irritating insects that we still have...Did Noah go around and get each one of them too...Or did God create them again after the flood. Think about how dirt is now after a little rain. Ground all soggy, trees falling over in some places. There are some plants that can't take being under water for 2 weeks less more than 40 days/nights. But yet there was that good ole olive tree that survived right? I mean mosquitoes, cockroaches, rats, mice, gerbils, hamsters, fleas(well i guess those could have been on some of the animals), the wicked serpent(why did he even allow Noah to take snakes on the ark if they were cursed anyway???), there are so many more animals that I wonder about but Noah had every last one of them in the ark right and those that didn't make it in the ark survived 40 days/nights of water.....RIIIGGHHHTTTT!!!!!!

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Why Does God Permit Wickedness?

by undercover in

how many times did we, as jws, see that question?

how many times did we read or recite the same ole bs about allowing wicked people to try to rule themselves and failing?

god's soverienty was brought into question and now he'll give satan and man so many thousand years to give it a try.

Sweetp0985

We're Earthlings on this Earth = Ants in a Ant Farm!!!!

That's how I feel God views us.

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Weird KH stories

by Jez in

what is your weirdest experience at a kh?.

one sunday, a kind older brother raised his hand to comment, all of a sudden, his foot shot out, he fell off his chair and started to shake.

everyone was hushed and shocked.

Sweetp0985

Jez that was just the good ole "loving" borg showing their love toward their "brother."

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What day was man created?

by Gadget in

according to the bibles account of creation, there seems to be a contridiction as to when man was created.

the theory accepted by most people i've spoken to is that, according to gen 2:7, 7 and jehovah god proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul, stating that man was created on the seventh creative day.. however, genesis 1:27 states that on the 6th creative day, 27 and god proceeded to create the man in his image, in god?s image he created him; male and female he created them.. so were man created on the 6th or 7th creative day?

and if god created man on the 7th day, then later created woman from man why does the bible state that he created man and woman at the same time on the 6th day?

Sweetp0985

Very interesting link Startingover.

If Gen 2:17 says: Nevertheless of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you are not to eat, for on the day you eat of it you shall most surely die."

And if Adam lived for 930 years, doesn't that go along with the 1000 yrs = 1 day in Jehovah time?

For some odd reason after reading that link....Aliens seem a little bit more realer to me....I don't know why...Just does...ET did heal Eliot.....thinking...thinking....Adam and Eve heard God "walking" through the Garden and was talking to him......Moses saw God's "glory"(his back).....God said,"No man can see me and live".....thinking...thinking...How did Chinese, Africans, all other races periods come from 2 people that everyone assumes were white?.....thinking...thinking...thinking....OOOWWWWW shoot...my head hurts now....

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Why Does God Permit Wickedness?

by undercover in

how many times did we, as jws, see that question?

how many times did we read or recite the same ole bs about allowing wicked people to try to rule themselves and failing?

god's soverienty was brought into question and now he'll give satan and man so many thousand years to give it a try.

Sweetp0985

Sorry so lazy but I remembered what I had put on another thread and in agreement with robhic...i will paste the following....

One day when talking to my brother about biblical things he said in layman terms (hoping God doesn't strike me down right now as I type this) that God made "a bet" with Satan to see if Job would weaken and "curse God and die". We all know Job didn't do this but God knowing all things already knew Job wasn't going to weaken but allowed him to go through all this anyway. He did get his blessings in the end, but my question is, if God already knows who's going to make him happy and who he is going to have to destroy in the end, WHY NOT GO AHEAD AND GET IT OVER WITH???

It's like a scene from a movie where the person is tortured until he gives some info or dies or escapes. God already knows how the end is going to be, just go ahead and kill the evil ones, and let the meek possess the earth. Kill Satan and be done with it. When he got mad with the people during Noah's time he caused the flood. Then Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed. Ok then he sends Jesus Christ to die for all sinners. So if all sinners are accounted for by Jesus Christ death just go ahead and KILL SATAN or lock him the abyss or where ever he's going after the 1000 yrs of peace. Why does God test us imperfect humans like this and he knows we are weak? To win a bet with Satan just like with Job. He wants to prove to Satan that with all the tricks and temptations he gets people with some are still going to remain faithful to God. So why keep this going? I feel in my heart that I may not make it into this "new system" or "paradise" or even have the "heavenly hope" so for those that are going to be in those places go ahead and end it for their sakes. Why continue to let new lives(babies) enter into this wicked world everyday to suffer with all the evilness thats only getting worse and worse everyday?

And if JW's are the only true religion approved by God go ahead and wipe out everybody else or make everyone be a JW. I mean when they were building the tower of Babel(sp) didn't he confuse the languages so that the tower could stop progress? So if he was able to do that, he could make everyone be a JW if he wanted to.

This may be a bad example but its like Kingpin dealer letting lil pip squeak dealer get all the sales he can and Kingpin knowing full well he can get rid of lil pip squeak whenever he wants too but allows him to continue making his lil sales until finally he gets tired of lil pip squeak and then sends his "right hand man" to go get rid of him.

It's times like this when I just sit back and look at the world and the situation its in and wonder why do I want to stay here? Why do I want to continue here? But I have to stay here and suffer along with everyone else until Jehovah sends Jesus to get rid of lil pip squeak.

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How can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt?? (Isa 63: 10 NWT)

by Tyre in

but they themselves rebelled and made his holy spirit feel hurt.

he now was changed into an enemy of theirs; he himself warred against them.

*how can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt??

Sweetp0985

How CAN he feel any hurt from us if he already knew we were gonna hurt him/be sinners before we were even born???Before we were even thought of for that matter...SO like I asked on another thread...why does he even allow children to continue to born to sinfulness if he already knows how its going to turn out.

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What is your Favorite Scene from a Movie?

by Sweetp0985 in

i thought about this topic last night for the board when watching one of my favorite movies.. 1. the man from snowy river- the part when they are going after the expensive colt and they get to the edge of the cliff and all the other riders stop and "jim" keeps going and leaps down the cliff after the wild horses.

i absolutely love that part of the movie...everytime its on i have to watch it, if not just to see this part only.. 2. love and basketball- when she tells him she will play for his heart...awwww first time i started crying.

and then the music they had playing in the background made it even worse.

Sweetp0985

I know this is a bit off subject but someone mentioned James Calivel(sp) and I thought about his role in Passion of Christ. I recently saw the movie The Four Feathers with Heath Ledger (I think as the coward for those who saw it) When I saw that movie and when he had the long hair, out of all the pics of Jesus that people had said how he would look, I think Heath with the long hair would be the perfect person to cast in a Jesus movie. Either that or that movie just really made me notice how cute he was. And with the dirty look...Oh my goodness....I wanted to save him myself from the bad people...forget about them damn feathers.

Bttt, I loved the scene in The Four Feathers when they drank the lil potion that paralyzed them and they put them in the "dead" pit and the prison warden thought it strange that both British prisoners "died" on the same day and went to the pit and they were gone...I thought that was soo funny....

Almost forgot Dijmou(sp) Hanson "the African dude" is also very damn fine in that movie.....Not too cute but very sexy body....Ok I'm going to stop now