Now you dont believe the Bible , which characters sound dodgy?

by sleepy 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sleepy
    sleepy

    When you stop believing the bible to be the word of God the motives behind the actions of gods prophets and followers come across rather differently. In fact much like fundlmentlists today.You have Joshua comiting genocide , and Paul moving in and tacking control of the christians and changing the religion to his own beliefs. Which other characters actions can be interpreted differenly when you see them just as ordinary humans with more selfish motives?

  • googlemagoogle
    googlemagoogle

    god

    it's perfectly valid to kill people for eating a fruit, aint it? or tempting david to break his own law (counting the people - oh what huge sin!). countless crap.

  • dorothy
    dorothy

    I definitely have a hard time with God, but I still have that fear of him too. The punishment does seem a little harsh. And I have a hard time with all of us being punished because some chick ate a piece of fruit thousands of years ago.

  • doogie
    doogie

    noah.

    i read somewhere that for him to be able to get 2 of each animal on the ark in time, he would've had to put another animal on the ark every 13 seconds or something like that. that doesn't leave a lot of time for building the ark.

    also, what did they do with all the poop?

  • shotgun
    shotgun

    Lot....Wife turned to salt, slept with his daughters...too drunk to remember but not to drunk to get them pregneant...this after he offered them up to the mob.

    Elisha...killing kids for acting like kids...two she bears kill 52 kids while they run around in circles letting the bears catch them.

    Samson...Killing people for their clothes to pay a debt and them catching 300 foxes tieing their tails together with a torch in between them....have you ever tried to to tie two cats tails together...I haven't because the blood loss on my part would be to great.

  • robhic
    robhic

    It would probably be easier and quicker to list the people who don't sound dodgy. Almost all the people who get more than a cursory mention in the bible have some really weird stuff going on!

    Who needs 1000 wives?!?! Who could kill 700 (7000?) warriors using a donkey's jawbone? I don't think so! And all the other various and sundry folk who have either some supernatural ability, some "who cares?" ability and on and on. It's like any other story ever written since writing was invented: Who wants to read boring, banal crap? You've gotta "punch it up" a bit to keep people's interest.

    If Solomon had even 5 wives, who would care? Some Mormons do better than that ... today! And killing a guy using a sharp or hard piece of bone (but why the jawbone? Hmmm...) isn't a big deal. You can kill somone pushing them down a stairway. But killing hundreds of people, that's a kick-ass deed! Even Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwartzenegger have yet to top it.

    So, I think it is all poetic license of a sort. Marketing the book to the masses is a whole lot easier with sex and violence on a huge scale.

    Robert

  • Bubbamar
    Bubbamar

    At the risk of being blasphemous - I would have to agree that god of the OT is a frightening Ogre! His people are wandering in the desert for 40 years and get a little hungry and thirsty. Humans who get hungry and thirsty - DAmn them - I'm gonna make them wander around lost in the dessert now! Oh-- you're hungry are you? Here -- eat manna three times a day every day for years and years -- that'll teach you to be hungry and doubt me...God of love that I am.

    Then, what of the "land flowing with milk and honey?" I guess at the end of all that crap Anything would look good!

    Then all of the sudden, in the NT, when Jesus comes on the scene -- God is all about love, mercy and forgiveness. Go figure. Sounds kind of Jeckyl and Hyde to me.

  • Preston
    Preston

    Well, God for starters. It never ceases to amaze me that some guy who touches the ark of the coveneant gets fried but people who do some pretty horrendous s**t get off scott free (Maybe God realized it was bad PR to kill everyone...hmmmmm). Also, don't forget Abraham. It sounded like he took the task of killing ( I'm sorry, I meant to say sacrificing) his son a bit too easily. Also David sounded a bit too much like a war lord to me, whats up w/that? Also the whole Noah thing. How can anyone, that drunk off their ass, become fully capable of operating such a heavy piece of machinery? I'm sorry but after all the imbibing he probably couldnt even move a Zamboni....

  • aniron
    aniron

    Why presume that I don't believe the Bible anymore just because I'm no longer a JW.

  • Sweetp0985
    Sweetp0985

    Speaking of Noah and the Ark...if all the earth flooded and no creatures/animals survived except those in the ark, what about all these little bitty ass irritating insects that we still have...Did Noah go around and get each one of them too...Or did God create them again after the flood. Think about how dirt is now after a little rain. Ground all soggy, trees falling over in some places. There are some plants that can't take being under water for 2 weeks less more than 40 days/nights. But yet there was that good ole olive tree that survived right? I mean mosquitoes, cockroaches, rats, mice, gerbils, hamsters, fleas(well i guess those could have been on some of the animals), the wicked serpent(why did he even allow Noah to take snakes on the ark if they were cursed anyway???), there are so many more animals that I wonder about but Noah had every last one of them in the ark right and those that didn't make it in the ark survived 40 days/nights of water.....RIIIGGHHHTTTT!!!!!!

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