i was reading the "news" on fark.com and one of the topics that came up was how some fundamentalists are refusing rabies treatment for their children based on some supposed scripture.
i suspect it was the same "old light" that the wt used to forbid true christians (meaning jw's) from being vaccinated.. the conversation turned to weird religious beliefs used to make children suffer and their parents to appear more "spiritual" as a result of that suffering (a weird kind of munchausen's complex if you ask me).
in the process up pop the dubs and blood transfusions.. an observation was that the martyred children are often placed on the cover of the wt literature or have articles written describing their spiritual strength; in other words certain people who have followed the rules are hilighted as being particularly "special" in some way.. just to make sure, i called up my book study reader who has about 50 years of serving the wt and asked him "why don't jw's celebrate mother's day again?".
Because it would be a idolatry to place one person before another was the answer from the 50 year inside Pioneer/Elder
What a bunch of bs.
Maybe their answer would be we aren't idolzing one person because there are several
photos on the cover.
graduation parties, anniversary parties = idolatry??
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
fjtoth,
I love your cartoons
third,
I'd apreciate an answer to my questions. (from my other post)
That Jesus he really can keep a secret.
Imagine Him knowing He wasn't going to made
king till 1914 and not leaking that information, got to hand it to him.
to what extent has the growth of the "fade" been facilitated by internet forums such as this?
sure there were people who chose to fade in the pre-internet era, simply by withdrawing themselves, gradually involving themselves with non-witnesses to a greater extent, or getting in touch with other ex-witnesses covertly through the convention system/telephone and mailing support network that used to be more important before the advent of the internet.
so the "fade" is not an invention of the internet era, not en entirely "new phenomenon".
1. To what extent has the Internet increased the incidence of the intentional "fade".2. What effect is this having on the efficacy of the apostate movement?
3. And what effect has the increase in the incidence of the "fade" had on local congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses?
1. Don't know. Speaking for myself I was very apprehensive, scared, paranoid
to even click on a con JW web site.
2. ? Can't hurt.
3. Hasn't the WTS published mags. recently because of concern of it happening more
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Auld,
Jesus knew it was Oct 1914 all the time!
Satan was playing with Russell to make him think it was 1874 then 1878.
This way Satan can use us apostates to try and attack the poor jw,s because of
their innocent error that Satan made them have.
Actually I heard another rumor for the delay too,
There was a strike at the crown manufacturing facility,
and it just messed everyones schedules up.
i have been lurking on these forums for about 6 months and thought it was time to join in.. i was a child/teen when i first became introduced to jehovah's witnesses through my mum who studied for a while but never fully committed.
i had a study and attended some meetings but it all petered out by the time i hit my late teens and we moved to another town.. for the following 10 years i just lived my life how i pleased.
got married etc.
Welcome moomin
Now your cong will say she was the seed that fell on the rocky soil.
Keep the WT seeds out of your head.
Are we related?
moo
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
No one knows the day or hour of Armageddon. That doesn't mean we can't know when Jesus began to rule as the king of God's Kingdom.
third,
Are you telling me that when Jesus was on earth,
He knew that he would be enthroned in heaven Oct. 1914?
Since he Knew this, why did he make it seem like he didn't know?
*** w98 6/1 p. 5 Wait Patiently ***
THE shepherd who repeatedly cried "Wolf!" when there was no wolf found that his subsequent cry for help went unheeded. Similarly today, many disregard the imminence of Jehovah’s day because they have heard countless warnings that have proved to be false alarms. The very fact that so many fail to discern which warning is genuine and then heed it plays into the hands of God’s great enemy, Satan, that false "angel of light."-2 Corinthians 11:14.
1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940's, 1975,
warnings from the WTS that proved to be false.
Who is the WTS really helping? Think about it.
write letters to the society requesting them to send someone to talk to you about the bible.. the catch, use a priest or ministers address.
no harm done both of the parties want to talk about the bible,.
so your not causing any personal harm, but it puts a nice drain on .
Write letters to the society requesting them to send someone to talk to you about the bible.
The catch, use a priest or ministers address.
No harm done both of the parties want to talk about the bible,
so your not causing any personal harm, but it puts a nice drain on
the JW corporation resources.
i remember this sister that used to come to the memorials, not sure where she was the rest of the time, that would partake of the offering.
i mean she would take a gulp of the vino and the bread and not one person said a thing.
how did they know they were a part of the super friends?
Personally I don't think women qualify but I do know the usual explanation is they simply feel close to God
I know a woman who partakes J. H. been of the annointed class her whole life.
There was a lot of gossip surrounding it though.
I know I took some newly interested ones to the kh and was actually
embarrasing the lunacy of passing the wine and bread and just looking at it like it
was some kind of weird ritual.
adherents of jw dogma are boastful of a new website (http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/607) which they claim has "irrefutable" proof for their 607 doctrine.
it is full of problems, and i will indicate these section by section, as time permits.. why is 607bce an important date to jehovah's witnesses.
the introduction paints jws as the persecuted underdog.
I want to make clear that I do appreciate the work that others do regarding the fight for truth.
This whole 1914 and generation thing is what made me jump ship.
That being said why won't this argument work?
If 1914 can be calculated using the bible as jws say,
they then make Jesus a liar. He should have known about 1914!!
How did Barbour and Russell figure it out but lil ole Jesus and the angels couldn't.
Am I missing something???
no one knows about that day hour, not even the angels in heaven,nor the son
you do not know on what day your lord will come
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