Hi Narkissos,
thanks for the info. I found some interesting comments also here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junia
Behemot
in his book misquoting jesus, bart d. ehrman claims that the "junias" mentioned in romans 16:7 with andronicus among those "who are of note among the apostles" (nwt: "who are men of note among the apostles") was actually a woman.
i don't see the word "men" in the original greek, so i suppose it has been added in the translation to dispel the embarrassing thought of the existence of female apostles in the early church.
similar adjustments can be found in other translations: kjv, esv, nasb, rsv, asv have "kinsmen", nkjv has "countrymen".
Hi Narkissos,
thanks for the info. I found some interesting comments also here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junia
Behemot
in his book misquoting jesus, bart d. ehrman claims that the "junias" mentioned in romans 16:7 with andronicus among those "who are of note among the apostles" (nwt: "who are men of note among the apostles") was actually a woman.
i don't see the word "men" in the original greek, so i suppose it has been added in the translation to dispel the embarrassing thought of the existence of female apostles in the early church.
similar adjustments can be found in other translations: kjv, esv, nasb, rsv, asv have "kinsmen", nkjv has "countrymen".
In his book Misquoting Jesus, Bart D. Ehrman claims that the "Junias" mentioned in Romans 16:7 with Andronicus among those "who are of note among the apostles" (NWT: "who are men of note among the apostles") was actually a woman. I don't see the word "men" in the original Greek, so I suppose it has been added in the translation to dispel the embarrassing thought of the existence of female apostles in the early Church. Similar adjustments can be found in other translations: KJV, ESV, NASB, RSV, ASV have "kinsmen", NKJV has "countrymen".
Ehrman claims that Junias is attested in the ancient world as a female name and not as a male name. Do you know of any evidence for this?
Behemot
if you can understand the written word in german, italian, portuguese, or spanish -- you can help.
oh, you will also need to have access to a copy of insight on the scriptures (it).. insight on the scriptures was first released in english, at the divine justice conventions.
the actual release of that two volume set began on friday, june 17, 1988. .
According to the italian edition of the Insight book (in the WT CD-Rom, 1999 edition), the people in Sodom and Gomorrah will not be resurrected (articles on Destruction, Sodom, Gomorrah, and Judgment Day). The article on Repentance makes mo mention of the cities.
Behemot
in his book four strange books of the bible: jonah, daniel, kohelet, esther (shocken books, new york 1967), elias j. bickerman, commenting on daniel 4:15, states that representations of the "sacred tree" with bandings similar to those described in that verse have been found on mesopotamian monuments.. i'm reading a translation of the book that lack notes and therefore i'm not able to trace the information's source.
does anyone here know about this iconography and its possible meaning?.
behemot.
Leolaia,
thanks a lot for your research. Don't worry about scanning. The information is enough.
Behemot
in his book four strange books of the bible: jonah, daniel, kohelet, esther (shocken books, new york 1967), elias j. bickerman, commenting on daniel 4:15, states that representations of the "sacred tree" with bandings similar to those described in that verse have been found on mesopotamian monuments.. i'm reading a translation of the book that lack notes and therefore i'm not able to trace the information's source.
does anyone here know about this iconography and its possible meaning?.
behemot.
Narkissos,
thanks for the link. Interesting read. The connection between the cosmic tree and divine kingship is clear. I'm curious about the claimed (by Bickerman) presence of the motif of the "chopped and metal-banded tree" in Mesopotamian iconography.
Any info on this?
Behemot
in his book four strange books of the bible: jonah, daniel, kohelet, esther (shocken books, new york 1967), elias j. bickerman, commenting on daniel 4:15, states that representations of the "sacred tree" with bandings similar to those described in that verse have been found on mesopotamian monuments.. i'm reading a translation of the book that lack notes and therefore i'm not able to trace the information's source.
does anyone here know about this iconography and its possible meaning?.
behemot.
In his book Four Strange Books of the Bible: Jonah, Daniel, Kohelet, Esther (Shocken Books, New York 1967), Elias J. Bickerman, commenting on Daniel 4:15, states that representations of the "sacred tree" with bandings similar to those described in that verse have been found on Mesopotamian monuments.
I'm reading a translation of the book that lack notes and therefore I'm not able to trace the information's source. Does anyone here know about this iconography and its possible meaning?
Behemot
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/shields_18_1.html.
see also: christopher hitchens, the missionary position: mother teresa in theory and practice.
http://www.amazon.com/missionary-position-mother-teresa-practice/dp/185984054x .
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/shields_18_1.html
See also: Christopher Hitchens, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice
http://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Position-Mother-Teresa-Practice/dp/185984054X
Behemot
a book that i'm reading (j. alberto soggin, "israel in the biblical period.
institutions, festivals, ceremonies, rituals", 2001), talking about the jerusalem temple, states that "certain authors have seen in the dates of the beginning and of the end of the construction works elements of the yearly cicle of the cananean ba'al", but no bibliographic reference is given supporting the statement.what does he refer to?
can someone point me to sources of information on this matter?thanks a lot.look forward to your replies.
Narkissos: yes, I meant the "Solomon's" temple.
Leolaia: thanks a lot for your feedback (I knew I could count on you!).
Behemot
a book that i'm reading (j. alberto soggin, "israel in the biblical period.
institutions, festivals, ceremonies, rituals", 2001), talking about the jerusalem temple, states that "certain authors have seen in the dates of the beginning and of the end of the construction works elements of the yearly cicle of the cananean ba'al", but no bibliographic reference is given supporting the statement.what does he refer to?
can someone point me to sources of information on this matter?thanks a lot.look forward to your replies.
I'd like to clarify that my question was about a possible connection between the dates of beginning/end of the construction of the temple and the yearly cicle of the Cananean baal.
Please stay on topic.
Behemot
a book that i'm reading (j. alberto soggin, "israel in the biblical period.
institutions, festivals, ceremonies, rituals", 2001), talking about the jerusalem temple, states that "certain authors have seen in the dates of the beginning and of the end of the construction works elements of the yearly cicle of the cananean ba'al", but no bibliographic reference is given supporting the statement.what does he refer to?
can someone point me to sources of information on this matter?thanks a lot.look forward to your replies.
... still looking forward to a proper answer ...
Behemot