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JWs and the pursue of higher education
by behemot insee how jws answer:.
http://www.webink.org/are-jehovahs-witnesses-opposed-to-higher-education-at-a-university/.
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Global warming? No problem, says Republican congressman, God promised Noah planet won't be destroyed again
by behemot ina republican congressman hoping to chair the powerful house energy committee refers to the bible and god on the issue of global warming.. representative john shimkus insists we shouldn't concerned about the planet being destroyed because god promised noah it wouldn't happen again after the great flood.. speaking before a house energy subcommittee on energy and environment hearing in march, 2009, shimkus quoted chapter 8, verse 22 of the book of genesis.. he said: 'as long as the earth endures, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, will never cease.'.
quizzed: illinois republican representative john shimkus answers questions for reporters after appearing before the house ethics committee.
the illinois republican continued: 'i believe that is the infallible word of god, and that's the way it is going to be for his creation.. 'the earth will end only when god declares its time to be over.
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A Republican congressman hoping to chair the powerful House Energy Committee refers to the Bible and God on the issue of global warming.
Representative John Shimkus insists we shouldn't concerned about the planet being destroyed because God promised Noah it wouldn't happen again after the great flood.
Speaking before a House Energy Subcommittee on Energy and Environment hearing in March, 2009, Shimkus quoted Chapter 8, Verse 22 of the Book of Genesis.
He said: 'As long as the earth endures, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, will never cease.'
Quizzed: Illinois Republican Representative John Shimkus answers questions for reporters after appearing before the House ethics committee
The Illinois Republican continued: 'I believe that is the infallible word of God, and that's the way it is going to be for his creation.
'The earth will end only when God declares its time to be over. Man will not destroy this earth. This earth will not be destroyed by a flood.
He added: 'Today we have about 388 parts per million in the atmosphere. I think in the age of dinosaurs, when we had the most flora and fauna, we were probably at 4,000 parts per million. There is a theological debate that this is a carbon-starved planet — not too much carbon. And the cost of a cap-and-trade on the poor is now being discovered.'
The Republican is a vocal opponent to President Obama's American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 - the so-called 'cap-and-trade' Bill, aimed at limiting carbon emissions.
The Bill passed the House of Representatives last year, but has yet to pass the Senate.
Reference point: Mr Shimkus is a member of the Lutheran Church and believes the Bible is the actual word of God
A Nasa thermal satellite image showing the world's arctic surface temperature trends during autumn between 1981 and 2008. Temperatures have increased over the Arctic due to dramatic recent decline in sea ice cover
Shimkus, who has served on the committee since 1997, will likely be competing against Texas Representative Joe Barton and Michigan Congressman Fred Upton for the leadership.
In a letter to fellow Republican Congressmembers, Shimkus says: 'I believe I have the credentials within the Commitee to bring fairness, without protests from the other side of the aisle, in its operation.'
He adds that 'now is not the time to moderate or compromise on our most deeply held values'.
It is not the first time Shimkus has sparked surprise. In May 2007, he compared the Iraq war to a baseball game between his 'beloved' St Louis Cardinals and the 'much despised' Chicago Cubs.
He also hit the headlines in 2009 when he walked out as President Obama delivered a speech to a joint session of the House and the Senate.
The Committee on Energy and Commerce, to give it its full title, is one of the oldest standing committees of the United States House of Representatives having been established in 1795.
It takes a central role in formulating U.S. policy on climate change and global warming.
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JW murder in Chicago
by behemot inpark forest, il-(enewspf)- police issued a press release friday afternoon regarding the strangulation death of a park forest woman.. according to the release, on thursday, december 16, 2010, at approximately 9:52 a.m., park forest police dispatched on a "well-being check" at a home in the 100 block of birch.
responding officers found the door of the residence wide open and an unresponsive 34-year old, female lying on the.
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Park Forest, IL-(ENEWSPF)- Police issued a press release Friday afternoon regarding the strangulation death of a Park Forest woman.
According to the release, on Thursday, December 16, 2010, at approximately 9:52 a.m., Park Forest Police dispatched on a "well-being check" at a home in the 100 block of Birch. Responding officers found the door of the residence wide open and an unresponsive 34-year old, female lying on the
floor. Responding officers and Park Forest Paramedics began CPR and rushed her to St James Hospital in Chicago Heights for further treatment.
Park Forest investigators responded to the scene. Police say with a "tremendous assistance from several neighbors" they quickly pieced together a scenario involving foul play. Police say they learned that a suspicious subject was observed by a neighbor earlier in the morning. That subject was located by officers who learned that he had been at the residence, police said. Police say that subject was interviewed by Park Forest Detectives and provided to them a statement regarding his alleged involvement. Police say the victim and suspect’s families knew each other through their mutual church activities.
On December 17, 2010, around 1:00 a.m., the victim, Aisha Nettle-Boone, age 34, succumbed to her injuries and was pronounced dead, police said in the release. An autopsy was done at the Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office and the cause of death was ruled a homicide.
Mark Williams,19 years of age, 26 Birch Street, Park Forest, Illinois was charged by the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office with first degree murder. Police say he will appear in the 6th District Court in Markham on Saturday, December 18 for a bond hearing.
UPDATE:
Park Forest, IL–(ENEWSPF)– A memorial service will be held for Aisha Nettle-Boone on Sunday, December 26, 2010 at 7:00 p.m.
The service will be held at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witness 150 E 124th Place, Chicago.
According to a press release from the Park Forest Police Department, on Thursday, December 16, 2010, at approximately 9:52 a.m., Park Forest Police dispatched on a "well-being check" at a home in the 100 block of Birch. Responding officers found the door of the residence wide open and an unresponsive 34-year old, female lying on the floor. Responding officers and Park Forest Paramedics began CPR and rushed her to St James Hospital in Chicago Heights for further treatment, the release said.
On December 17, 2010, around 1:00 a.m., the victim, Aisha Nettle-Boone, age 34, succumbed to her injuries and was pronounced dead, police said in the release. An autopsy was done at the Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office and the cause of death was ruled a homicide.
Mark Williams,19 years of age, 26 Birch Street, Park Forest, Illinois was charged by the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office with first degree murder.
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The Dead Sea Scrolls (DDS) highlight a whole lot of textual problems with the Hebrew Scriptures. The texts of the DDS are around 1000 years older than the Hebrew text (the “Masoretic Text” = MT) upon which modern translations are based. In the light of the DSS the MT appears now to be only a late and arbitrary lineage of text, the survivor of an earlier, fully uncontrolled, variety of text.
The DDS have destroyed the reassuring conviction that the traditional Hebrew Bible was already accepted as such when Jesus and Paul were still alive.
Many of the Qumran texts belong to the text lineage whence eventually the Masorets drew on; others didn’t, so that we are reminded of the textual variety that was still possible between the last century bCE and the second century CE.
For instance, certain scrolls contain a different version of the book of Jeremiah (shorter than the “canonical” one), a different text of Samuel; two different books of Isaiah; a manipulated text of Ecclesiastes; and so forth.
To make a long story short, the DDS suggest that we don’t have any “original” Scripture and that any research for an “original” has to die off around 200 b.C.E., in an irreconcilable textual plurality.
To know more about the subject I suggest this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Unauthorized-Version-Truth-Fiction-Bible/dp/0679744061
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Really, how do you decide?
by startingover inover the last 9+years, i have read many discussions between believers and non believers.
each side supports their claims with research which includes links to websites.
my question is, how do you decide what information is really the truth and unbiased?
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We may ask, “Why do many people accept unverified occult explanations when they are clothed in religious or paranormal guise?” The answer, I think, in part at least, is because such accounts arouse awe and entice the passionate imagination. In an earlier book I have labeled this “the transcendental temptation,” the temptation to believe in things unseen, because they satisfy felt needs and desires. The transcendental temptation has various dimensions. It was resorted to by primitive men and women, unable to cope with the intractable in nature, unmitigated disasters, unbearable pain or sorrow. It is drawn upon by humans in order to assuage the dread of death—by postulating another dimension to existence, the hope for an afterlife in which the evils and injustices of this world are overcome. The lure of the transcendental temptation appeals to the frail and forlorn. There may not be any evidence for a transcendental realm; but the emotive and intellectual desire to submit to it can provide a source of comfort and consolation. To believe that we will meet in another life those whom we have loved in this life can be immensely satisfying, or at least it can provide some saving grace. It may enable a person to get through the grievous losses that he or she suffers in this life. If I can’t be with those I cherish today, I can at least do so in my dreams and fantasies, and if I submit to and propitiate the unseen powers that govern the universe this will miraculously right the wrongs that I have endured in this vale of tears. Thus the transcendental temptation is tempting because it enables human beings to survive the often cruel trials and tribulations that are our constant companion, and it enables us to endure this life in anticipation of the next. It is the mystery and magic of religion, its incantations and rituals, that fan the passions of overbelief, and nourish illusion and unreality. There is a real and dangerous world out there that primitive and modern humans need to cope with—wild animals and marauding tribes, droughts and famine, lightning and forest fires, calamities and deprivation, accidents and contingencies. Surely, there is pleasure and satisfaction, achievement, and realization in life, but also tragedy and failure, defeat, and bitterness. Our world is a complex tapestry of joy and suffering. The transcendental temptation thus can provide a powerful palliative enabling humans to cope with the unbearable, overcome mortality, and finitude; and it does so by creating fanciful systems of religious overbelief in which priests and prophets propitiate the unseen sources of power and thus shield us from the vicissitudes of fortune […] I think that the temptation has its roots in a tendency, and this in a disposition. In other words, there is most likely within the human species a genetic component, which is stronger than temptation and weaker than instinct. The hypothesis that I wish to offer is that the belief in the efficacy of prayer and the submission to divine power persists because it has had some survival value in the infancy of the race; powerful psycho-sociobiological factors are thus at work, predisposing humans to submit to the temptation […] belief in the transcendental had adaptive value, and those tribes or clans that believed in unseen myths and forces to whom they propitiated by ritual and prayer had a tendency to survive and to pass on this genetic predisposition to their offspring. Thus religiosity is a “heritable” factor within the naked human ape.
- Paul Kurtz (Professor Emeritus of Philosophy, State University of New York at Buffalo), “Why Do People Believe or Disbelieve?”, in Free Inquiry, vol. 19, n. 3
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Really, how do you decide?
by startingover inover the last 9+years, i have read many discussions between believers and non believers.
each side supports their claims with research which includes links to websites.
my question is, how do you decide what information is really the truth and unbiased?
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sorry, I'll repost it bigger:
We may ask, “Why do many people accept unverified occult explanations when they are clothed in religious or paranormal guise?” The answer, I think, in part at least, is because such accounts arouse awe and entice the passionate imagination. In an earlier book I have labeled this “the transcendental temptation,” the temptation to believe in things unseen, because they satisfy felt needs and desires. The transcendental temptation has various dimensions. It was resorted to by primitive men and women, unable to cope with the intractable in nature, unmitigated disasters, unbearable pain or sorrow. It is drawn upon by humans in order to assuage the dread of death—by postulating another dimension to existence, the hope for an afterlife in which the evils and injustices of this world are overcome. The lure of the transcendental temptation appeals to the frail and forlorn. There may not be any evidence for a transcendental realm; but the emotive and intellectual desire to submit to it can provide a source of comfort and consolation. To believe that we will meet in another life those whom we have loved in this life can be immensely satisfying, or at least it can provide some saving grace. It may enable a person to get through the grievous losses that he or she suffers in this life. If I can’t be with those I cherish today, I can at least do so in my dreams and fantasies, and if I submit to and propitiate the unseen powers that govern the universe this will miraculously right the wrongs that I have endured in this vale of tears. Thus the transcendental temptation is tempting because it enables human beings to survive the often cruel trials and tribulations that are our constant companion, and it enables us to endure this life in anticipation of the next. It is the mystery and magic of religion, its incantations and rituals, that fan the passions of overbelief, and nourish illusion and unreality. There is a real and dangerous world out there that primitive and modern humans need to cope with—wild animals and marauding tribes, droughts and famine, lightning and forest fires, calamities and deprivation, accidents and contingencies. Surely, there is pleasure and satisfaction, achievement, and realization in life, but also tragedy and failure, defeat, and bitterness. Our world is a complex tapestry of joy and suffering. The transcendental temptation thus can provide a powerful palliative enabling humans to cope with the unbearable, overcome mortality, and finitude; and it does so by creating fanciful systems of religious overbelief in which priests and prophets propitiate the unseen sources of power and thus shield us from the vicissitudes of fortune […] I think that the temptation has its roots in a tendency, and this in a disposition. In other words, there is most likely within the human species a genetic component, which is stronger than temptation and weaker than instinct. The hypothesis that I wish to offer is that the belief in the efficacy of prayer and the submission to divine power persists because it has had some survival value in the infancy of the race; powerful psycho-sociobiological factors are thus at work, predisposing humans to submit to the temptation […] belief in the transcendental had adaptive value, and those tribes or clans that believed in unseen myths and forces to whom they propitiated by ritual and prayer had a tendency to survive and to pass on this genetic predisposition to their offspring. Thus religiosity is a “heritable” factor within the naked human ape.
- Paul Kurtz (Professor Emeritus of Philosophy, State University of New York at Buffalo), “Why Do People Believe or Disbelieve?”, in Free Inquiry, vol. 19, n. 3
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District Convention speaker recommendations 2011
by billyboy inevery year the wtbts asks a few select top elders / cos to "rate" the brothers in their circuit to see if they qualify to give talks on district conventions.
it would seem that the society are concerned that some brothers are being a bit faddy in shaving their heads.
extract:.
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dog-matic:
LOL
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Geneve (Switzerland): JWs buy former military museum to turn into KH complex
by behemot inin geneve (switzerland) jws buy an ancient military museum and plan to turn it into a kingdom hall complex.
see here (in french):.
http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-geneve/temoins-jehovah-voient-grand-saint-jean-2010-12-10.
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In Geneve (Switzerland) JWs buy an ancient military museum and plan to turn it into a kingdom hall complex. See here (in French):
http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-geneve/temoins-jehovah-voient-grand-saint-jean-2010-12-10
According to the article, the owner of the place went bankrupt and JWs stepped in to buy the place for 2,7 million Swiss Francs (2,8 million US dollars), which is 2 million francs (2,1 million US dollars) less than its actual value on real estate market.
The total expense for the project (purchasing and remodeling) will be 5,5 million Swiss Francs (5,7 million US dollars).
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Quebec moves to curtail religion in daycare centres
by behemot inquebec - the quebec government will crack down on expressions of religion in subsidized daycare centres beginning next june.. .
the canadian press has obtained documents from the family department that indicate the province will ban most forms of religion in centres that receive government money.. .
those who disregard the new directive will be subject to various sanctions, including the possible loss of their government subsidy.. .
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"Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man." - Gesuit saying
Gesuits knew their stuff.
Behemot
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Quebec moves to curtail religion in daycare centres
by behemot inquebec - the quebec government will crack down on expressions of religion in subsidized daycare centres beginning next june.. .
the canadian press has obtained documents from the family department that indicate the province will ban most forms of religion in centres that receive government money.. .
those who disregard the new directive will be subject to various sanctions, including the possible loss of their government subsidy.. .
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QUEBEC - The Quebec government will crack down on expressions of religion in subsidized daycare centres beginning next June.
The Canadian Press has obtained documents from the Family Department that indicate the province will ban most forms of religion in centres that receive government money.
Those who disregard the new directive will be subject to various sanctions, including the possible loss of their government subsidy.
Daycare workers will be allowed to say their prayers but not permitted to make children recite them.
Religious leaders including rabbis, imams and priests will no longer be allowed to visit daycare centres.
And while religious symbols such as crucifixes will still be allowed, they cannot be used as an educational tool.
Family Minister Yolande James has called a news conference in Montreal on Friday morning to discuss the issue.
source: http://www.globalmontreal.com/Quebec+moves+curtail+religion+daycare+centres/3995490/story.html
