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  Elders raid a SDA church!

  by ozziepost in

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  is it true what we're hearing?

  it's been reported to us that two elders burst in to a sda church service about a month ago seeking to trap a witness man there.

  the man, a witness for 14 years, had become disillusioned with the affairs of the wts in australia after viewing the "sunday" program on channel nine which exposed the cover-up of paedophilia in the witness movement.

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  barry

  G,Day Steve,

  Are you ready for the Slamming? here goes

  Walter Rea wrote the White lie but he was only a small fish.

  In Crisis of Conscience page 5 it there talks about Desmond Ford an SDA professor who was defrocked for taking issue with the Adventist teaching of 1844. If you have a copy look it up. Notice Des was removed from his teaching post but he was not disfellowshiped and he continues to speak in Adventist circles. The fact is we love our Apostates and they remain members of our church and many of us happen to agree with them including myself. Actually SDAs no longer disfellowship the most they will do is ask you to leave if you were to be disruptive.

  The Adventists in contact with the ex JW person may agree with Des too as there are many groups in the Adventist community who have differing views.

  And the fires of hell, yes SDAs do beleive in hellfire check with youre SDA friends. They just dont beleive the fires of hell are forever. Barry
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  Elders raid a SDA church!

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it true what we're hearing?

  it's been reported to us that two elders burst in to a sda church service about a month ago seeking to trap a witness man there.

  the man, a witness for 14 years, had become disillusioned with the affairs of the wts in australia after viewing the "sunday" program on channel nine which exposed the cover-up of paedophilia in the witness movement.

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  come on Ozzie where did you get youre information from. Do you get the Record but I havent seen it in that either. I just hope the ex JW is with a group of Gospel SDAs. Barry
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  Elders raid a SDA church!

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it true what we're hearing?

  it's been reported to us that two elders burst in to a sda church service about a month ago seeking to trap a witness man there.

  the man, a witness for 14 years, had become disillusioned with the affairs of the wts in australia after viewing the "sunday" program on channel nine which exposed the cover-up of paedophilia in the witness movement.

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  barry

  Im SDA but I havent read about that one in the media yet . must have missed it.

  I would of thought SDAs and JWs get on allright. Quite a few years ago I was asked to go to the memorial so I asked my SDA minister did he want to come along. Anyway he decided to come along at the last minute. Anyhow he got on well with the elders and to my suprise he knew them all very well. Barry
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  "God Doesn't Want You To Have A Christmas Tree"

  by astro_girl in

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  i'm fairly new here (more of a lurker than a poster) .

  my mom-in-law (a jw for 50+ years) was just on the phone with an old childhood friend of hers (a baptist and perfectly content with her religion) that lives down south and she told her that "god doesn't want you to have a christmas tree...you should know that by now.

  " grrrrrrrrrrr......i just wanted to slap her.. how dare she try and ruin someone else's holidays spewing her poison!

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  A Muslim customer of mine from Lebanon had a Christmas tree in there lounge room today. They told me it was OK for tham to have a christmas tree. Barry
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  What is the true Christian religion / faith?

  by evergreen in

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  i,m going to cut to the chase here .i am not long viewing this website and am fascinated at much of what i have read.currently i attend meetings, but sit there and think of what i now know about the society and its past.i just feel so confused at the moment with religion.. its a bit like who shot jfk ,did man really land on the moon etc .. except it involves all of us( just wish i knew the truth).

  the only thing that is keeping me there right now is that all my family are in the "truth" ,,and i cant just stay at home and be shunned which i have recently experienced ( was inactive for a while) .. if i knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that i have found the true faith and discern that it is definately the true faith, i would then make a stand and nothing would stop me .

  already i am reading the scriptures without the aid of wt publications and what i am reading is amazing .i am starting to feel that i am now getting closer to god by simply doing this coupled with prayer.. there must be one true faith as there was in the first century.

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  Gday from Australia Evergreen,

  Im An SDA Seventh Day Adventist but sadly in my own Church many have it wrong and I would consider many in other Churches which I fellowship with have it right. Such is the state of the Church in our own century as it was in the early Church.

  I beleive the gospel is the good news. News about something that has happened. It is about someone else. The good News of the gospel is that the son of god took our nature to pay the dept we owe to righteousness, to remove the barrier that we might be treated as he deserves.

  There are and always have been only two religions in the world. The most popular religion is where humans endeavour to make themselves good enough for God to accept. It preaches. "Be holy and God will love you '.

  But the true religion of the gospel , 'this man Jesus receives sinners Luke15;2 God "justifies the ungodly Romans4;5 for christ goes to be with those who acknowledge themselves as sinners Luke19;7

  By Grace Alone

  We are saved by grace alone received through faith alone beccause of the work of Christ alone as revealed the the only infallible of truth -the Word of God alone.

  The moment we beleive . Christ,s own perfect righteousness is imputed to us and remains ours for all our days provided we continue to look to him, despite a hundred or a thousand failures.

  At all stages of our experiance we are saved by faith alone, but the faith that saves is never alone. Even on Judgement day we will be saved by faith alone though our works will testify to the reality of that faith despite their infinite imperfections.

  The gospel is the sweetest melody from human lips. 'the good , glad and merry tidings that makes a man,s heart to sing and his feet to dance.
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  JWs, ex-JWs and Non-JWs

  by CeriseRose in

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  2. friends

  i'm going to preface these comments with a disclaimer: in no way am i meaning these observations to be inflamatory, exclusionary, or to devalue anyone.

  i believe everyone has a right to their opinion, and observations, and to share themwithin the terms of the board.

  i also believe that there is learning to be found from a variety of sources.

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  Gday Ozzie,

  Its better than that 39 you had in Sydney the other day is it Global warming or what? these erratic patterns.
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  JWs, ex-JWs and Non-JWs

  by CeriseRose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm going to preface these comments with a disclaimer: in no way am i meaning these observations to be inflamatory, exclusionary, or to devalue anyone.

  i believe everyone has a right to their opinion, and observations, and to share themwithin the terms of the board.

  i also believe that there is learning to be found from a variety of sources.

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  barry

  Im SDA and I beleive I know as much about cults as anyone here. There are many different varieties of SDA some very cultic which are no different to the WT cult.

  The worst cult is a offshoot of SDAs in the 1920s called the Shepards Rod this cult developed into the cult at Waco in Texas some SDAs joined this cult a school teacher at the Church I go to joined but escaped the disaster. My wife is Catholic and she still calls me a Davidian because of that.

  In SDAs there are cults within the Church not far from where I live there is a group who beleive that if you are a beleiver you wouldnt need to go to a doctor because you wouldnt get sick. They dont put there cultic idears into practice because one of my friends who is SDA is married to one but they still go to the doctor. These groups have there own meetings.

  Another group of SDAs in a place called Deniliquin about 300km from here are very strange. There women where long dresses have buns in there hair and look like something out of little house on the prairy. Im thinking of going out to see them one day and visit there Church.

  I think I know just as much about cults as anyone as Ive said before my x wife was a JW study and that gave me a few problems.

  If anyone wants to know about Cults maybe I would have some information from a different perspective. Barry
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  Strange Encounter With Dubs Just Now

  by Stephanus in

  1. jw
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  i was just up at a neighbour's place, standing at the door talking to her, when two dub ladies came up the path on what turned out to be a return visit.

  the neighbour said "not today" and hid inside and i dismissed myself, following the ladies out of the yard.

  what was strange is that they didn't acknowledge me at all, even though i was right behind them.

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  Steph Its that beard cut the bloody thing off.
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  How much should home owner's insurance cost in a mortgage?

  by Elsewhere in

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  on my "good faith" estimate that the mortgage company gave me several months ago they put $100 per month.

  i have been calling around and i'm hearing things like $3250 a year ($271 a month).. did the mortgage company twist the numbers to help reel me in?

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  We have insurance here in Australia for house and contents house value of $300,000 and the annual price is about $300. I think I would get another quote Elswhere.
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  I'm a new churchgoer, communion question

  by pennycandy in

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  i've only in the last month started attending a non-denominational church.

  i was absolutely shocked by what i experienced, and not because of the lightening i thought might strike me down as i crossed the threshhold.

  while many were attentive and friendly, no one pried into my religious history, or tried to railroad me into coming back.

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  Some Churches have footwashing before communion the SDAs do that and some others. The majority of protestants including the cultic SDAs have open communion and invite all who have been baptised to partake. Barry