i had a woman come to my door today that i thought was a jw.
it was wierd she was by herself but i didn't think twice.
she started asking me questions about faith and i asked her if she was affiliated with the jws.
Gday newlight2,
I havent heard of that group you mentioned many SDA groups have their own meetings but are still part of the SDA church. If you were an SDA youre next minister could be a conservative from Amazing Facts or even a liberal you wouldnt know unless you had a disscussion with him or it came out in his sermons.
Shawn,
If you wanted to talk with this person I could tell you how to deal with them. As I said before I dont agree with much they say. Barry
i had a woman come to my door today that i thought was a jw.
it was wierd she was by herself but i didn't think twice.
she started asking me questions about faith and i asked her if she was affiliated with the jws.
Im an SDA and I know about Amazing Facts. Amazing Facts in SDA land is run by conservative SDAs they are part of the SDA church but they have different doctrine than the official SDA church. The Amazing Fact people have their own meetings separate from the churches meetings. One very strong doctrine they have is they beleive Jesus had a sinfull human nature and this one doctrine flaviours their whole theology that flys in the face of the protestant doctrine of 'righteousness by faith'.
These conservatives have cultic idears such as they beleive they are the only true ones and everyone else is mistaken. For the most part they would shy away from going to other denominations for services.
They are sometimes called CBs [Concerned bretherine] or Adventist catholics because of their theology. Yes they do have cultic traits. I cant reccommend them at all. Barry
hello, my name is brian jackson.
i am a seventh-day adventist and i am doing a bible project for my 11th grade religion class and i chose the topic of the trinity and decided to compare that of the seventh-day adventist teachings with that of your teachings.. what do you believe about the trinity?.
also, a little off the topic, but why don't you believe in having an american flag in your sanctuary?.
The SDAs have there roots in the Millerite movement and the Second Adventists were Adventists which made dates such as 1875 for the second comming. SDAs made no further dates after 1844 for the second comming.
I come here to be with all my fellow cousins. Barry
hello, my name is brian jackson.
i am a seventh-day adventist and i am doing a bible project for my 11th grade religion class and i chose the topic of the trinity and decided to compare that of the seventh-day adventist teachings with that of your teachings.. what do you believe about the trinity?.
also, a little off the topic, but why don't you believe in having an american flag in your sanctuary?.
Gday Brian,
Im an SDA and I live in Australia. The trinity is a big subject with the Witnesses but this arguement started a long time ago. In about the third century there were different views concerning the trinity and one view came from a priest named Arius who first said the Son is in no way God and the holy spirit is Gods active force. Hence the witnesses are called Arians because of there beleif.
The SDA beleif in the trinity is exactly the same as Catholics and most protestant denominations. The doctrin as we now have it was developed from the ecumenical councils starting from first council at Nicaea.
A book I would strongly reccommend Is called 'Christian thought ' by Tony Lane. I have a copy of it but cant put my hands on it right now.
The witnesses will say the doctrine of the trinity is pagan but by useing their same logic all christian doctrin could be argued is pagan.
I have also found very few witnesses know what the doctrine of the trinity is and what we beleive and they often neglect the doctrine of the incarnation.
Maybe you could go to the Kingdom Hall in the course of youre research Ive been there and tehy are quite friendly people and no dought would make clear there point of view. They have WT study which is like the lesson study that we have. During this study only those that are picked and given the mic can comment. You just cant have youre say like in the SDAs. They then have the public talk which is like our sermon.
Good luck with youre project and God Bless Barry
today i read "doubtfully your's" comment on wiccans and i was shocked.
i wanted to reply immediately about tolerance and to respect another religion.
then i thought about him having a sister, smoking pot and presenting herself as pagan giving him some bad impression (prejudice?
Christians are hard on themselves and easy on other people so christians should be critical firstly of their own church. This keeps the religion in check before it develops a life of its own. As in the time of jesus the saviour was crusified so the organisation would survive.
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expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
Gday again Jaffa,
The best way to help youre friend is to offer youre friend the gospel.
The gospel is not advice. Not Here,s how to raise yourself to heaven by pulling on youre bootstraps.
It is good news. News is about something that has happened, it is about someone else. The good news of the gospel is that God the Son took our nature to pay the dept we owe to righteousness, to remove the barrier between earth and heaven.
The good news is that all that is necessary for salvation has already been accomplished and it only remains for us to accept it . This is the meaning from calvary . 'It is finished'. Christ was treated as we deserve that we might be treated as he deserves.
I know Jaffa you have a good understanding of the gospel and let that guide you reguardless of denominational affiliation.
God Bless
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expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
The link is working now spelling is not my best subject
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expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
I just cant get the site to come up from that link does anyone know what I might be doing wrong?
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expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
Gday Blondie,
I would like to recommend Spectrum magazine as an up to date view of Adventism. Spectrum is approved by the General Conference of SDAs and has articals on a wide range of subjects and range of idears in the Church. On this site will be progressive idears on Homosexuallity, women as pastors, evolution v creation debate called the faith creation conference that the church has held over the last few years.
The site is http://www.spectrummagazine.org/church/ss/041206ford.html Here is Dr Des Ford commenting on the lesson which is like the WT study. Dr Des Ford is mentioned in Ray Franz book Crisis of Concience. Proof that we still love even our apostates.
You could look up 'Good News Unlimited' or Dr Desmond Ford,s site.
Doug Batchelor is a prominent SDA but I couldnt support his theology.
These can be all be looked up on the net butr Im not haveing much with links right now.
Ok its working now
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expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
Jaffacake,
Des Ford is still an member of the church as was Robert Brinsmead up until he joined the Lutherins. The fact is we even love our apostates.
