Posts by barry

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Arminianism

by TheListener in

what are the similarities and differences between arminiansim and jw's?.

one key similarity i've found is that in arminianism a certain few are chosen by god for salvation.

seems similar to the 144,000 doctrine.

Pelagan was a scottish monk who beleived christs example was all that was necessary and the faithfulll should and could follow his example. Pelagans opposers beleived his mind was befuddled by too much porridge.Peleganism is a heracy of christianity

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UK Big Brother series housemate a JW?

by Sirona in

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did anyone see tonights big brother?

ashlene said some stuff about the bible which was distinctly jw..... she said.... "don't you think that the stuff the bible predicted is happening in our day?

" then she said "the bible condemns many things, like sex before marriage, smoking and other stuff".

barry

From what you have written she could be a Mormon or SDA or some type of fundamentalist

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Do you know of any "apostate" ex-jws that became "BAC's" that quit bac's?

by booker-t in

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i remember when i left jw's and started going to born-again christians(bac's) churches my "atheist" father laughed at me and told me that i would eventually leave bac's because like j.f.

rutherford said "religion is a snare and racket".

he said bac's and jws are just on an endless treadmill motivated by "fear" and not love for god into going to church/kh.

barry

I beleive the last days began in AD31 along with many christians and the end could have come at any time since then.

The beleif we can change days into years and pick and choose when the end will be is called the historisist approach. The problem with this approach is the various texts are interpreted as to be only relevant to the present day and the original fullfilment is completely ignored.

The born again movement has hijacked the beleif of all christians that they are born again and some born agains beleive they are the only ones born again because they speak in tongues . thus they beleive they are saved by works.

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Vegetarianism

by rezamichael in

why aren't witnesses vegetarians?

it's well known that adam and eve were vegetarian.

there was only ever a concession given by god to allow meat eating after the flood as there was no vegetation so it was forced and rather a temporary fix up rather than a new permanent diet.

barry

SDAs promote vegetarianism and studies have found they have longer and more healtfull lives into old age. Recently I read an artical about how 'health reform' [thats what SDAs call it]was working too well and sending thechurch broke because many ministers were living well into there nineties and the church was haveing too pay their retirement fund an expence not factored in.

That being said more than 50% are not vegetarian and as a result suffer all the ailements of the general community.

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Please Help Me Help My Mom To See The Stupidity Of The Blood Doctrine

by minimus in

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she constantly parrots acts 15:29 to "abstain from blood".

she showed me the latest awake that says something about how's there's a rare disease from taking blood transfusions that "hundreds" have gotten.

i told her "hundreds in billions is nothing".

barry

Gday Min, I think a big factor in the way we think is the people around us because we a social animals we try to fit in. This is how we have a community and not anarcky. Because youre mom probably mostly mixes with other JWs those idears get reinforced. The only way is to get her away the JW influence for a while. Barry

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Why didn't Hitler jail other pacifist religions?

by jwfacts in

the watchtower still proudly highlights that they were the only religion sent to concentration camps, due to their neutral war stance.

however there are many other religions that are neutral or pacificts and so must have disobeyed hitlers request for them to join his ss.

so what is the real reason jws were put into concentration camps?

barry

Hitler jailed some Adventists and Catholics for pacifism. In fact the Adventist Church split because of the war in Germany the part of the Adventists that wouldnt take part in the war became The SDA reform movement and they are still in existance today all over the world.

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Does anyone else have high Cholesterol?

by nicolaou in

turns out i've inherited this genetic condition whereby my body doesn't regulate cholesterol properly.

even though i eat quite sensibly and exercise my cholesterol is at 7. i'm not overweight, i don't smoke and i only drink with friends.. now the doctor tells me i have 6 months to bring my cholestorol under control or i'll be on pills (statins?).

no red meat!

barry

The massai tribes in Africa have a very high intake of cholesterol they drink the blood of their animals and drink lots of milk yet their blood cholesterol is very low. Some people beleive it is because of their stress free life.

I had my cholesterol taken it was only 2.9

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Apart from JW's, do others still feel 1914 was a turning point in history?

by jwfacts in

the watchtower claims that hisorians say 1914 was when the world changed forever.

as a jw the year 1914 is repeated so endlessly that it seems it must have been the turning point in history and hence the beginning of the last days.

but i have never really heard anyone else ever mention that year, apart from the odd history lesson on ww1.. do people in general ever think of or discuss 1914 as being a year of any significance?.

barry

Not ever been a JW but 1914 is an important year many see it in Australia as when Australia became a nation and the time when they proved themselves at gallopoly. that being said 1914 cant be found in the bible

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