Posts by barry

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what do other religions believe about jesus ruling " invisibly"

by candidlynuts in

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as a jw we believed he was in power after 1914 .

do other religions believe he rules or will rule "invisibly"?.

and if he is in power, what do you think of his job performance so far?.

barry

I think the invisible presence came from the second Adventists.

Adventists beleive that Christ has been present in the form of the Holy Spirit since the cross. Adventrists also beleive that Jesus will come in the clouds visible to everyone in the future.

Adventists also beleive in 1844 it was the beginning of the investigative judgement before the second comming to see who is worthy to be ressurected and taken to heaven. Other churches dont beleive the investigative judgement doctrine and this doctrine and within the SDAs the doctrine is often in dispute. Many of the hardliners beleive it but the theologins and more informed members dont. Im one who dosent beleive the investigateve doctrine. Barry

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All white girls are.........

by Gill in

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my daughter has been 'going out' with a black gentleman for the last year.

they are very much in love by the looks of things and have long term plans.. however, opposition has recently come from somewhere i did not expect.

it turns out that he has been very upset with his mother since she made several unpleasant remarks to him.

barry

There is no racism in Australia we love white people here. Tell youre daughter to come here.

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Crosses (on necklaces and hanging in your home)

by earthtone in

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after reading mary's post on crosses.

i got to thinking.......... how do people feel about wearing crosses as a memorial or remembrance of what jesus went through for us?.

does anyone remember witnesses using this explanation as to why they don't wear crosses or hang them in their home?

barry

A scriptual answer is found in the bible. Galatians 6.14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ through which the world has been crucified to me and I to the world, Also

Philippians 3.18 For ,as /I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ their destiny is destruction

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Has anyone spoken 'in tongues'?

by lighthouse19something in

i've been attending an independent church were the women wave flags, play realy loud live music, speak in tongues (not me) and alot of other thingsi never saw in kh.

it realy feels weird, but have closer friendships than in kh.

barry

Its not a language itis just like sylibles put together or sort of like baby talk. Thats just my opinion hope i dont offend anyone. Ive heard it a number of times Ive even had people lay hands on me and speak in tongues to try to get me to do it but it never worked guess Im just not like them.

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Has anyone spoken 'in tongues'?

by lighthouse19something in

i've been attending an independent church were the women wave flags, play realy loud live music, speak in tongues (not me) and alot of other thingsi never saw in kh.

it realy feels weird, but have closer friendships than in kh.

barry

Arthur Ive heard that story about people speaking in tongues in SDA circles beleive it or not. That was a while back though.

Since that time SDAs have had joint meatings with tongue speakers and many SDAs around the world go to penticostal meatings for the experiance. I remember in Tumut NSW when the penticostals opened their new church they invited the SDA church members to come to the opening. I went with many other SDA church members and some of the more conservative SDAs thought the devil would jump out and get them when a penticostal started up speaking in tongues. I could see it on there faces. The bloke started speaking in tongues was waiving his arms in the air and swinging backward on his chair as he spoke.

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What Were You Doing When You Found Out about 9-11 5 Years Ago??

by mama1119 in

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friends

everyone has a story about what they were doing and the emotions that followed after the twin towers were hit...what is your story?

?

barry

I was right here on JWD in chat when they told me to turn on the TV set. I couldnt stop shaking for hours and thought there might even be terrorists in planes over Canberra because Canberra is the capitol of Australia.

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Where Else Would I Go? The LONG Answer

by jwfacts in

the following is an article i have just posted at http://jwfacts.com/index_files/where.htm i have collected the information from a number of discussions on jwd.

i welcome any comments and suggestions.

?in the long run it is far more dangerous to adhere to illusion than to face what the actual fact is?

barry

Gday JW facts, Good work I agree with you . I just wan to add that type of religion we decide on and the church we go to is our choice and our choice only. I see religion as a big supermarket out there and we all have freedom to pick the product we want. There is also what I would call the black market out there where some religionists promote fear doom if we dont buy there products. these organisations should be delisted as businesses by the people who delist businesses. Cant think of there name is it Atsic or something. Barry

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A funny SDA JW tale

by barry in

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my dad is her in canberra staying with us and tonight i mentioned about how i get on jwd and how this site works.. he told me a great storey tonight about some sdas collecting for a charity over in wagga nsw where he onced lived.. anyway this bloke was going door to door trying to get donations he had a bag just like jws carry.

the going was hard people didnt want to even talk to him and being a good salesperson as he was in his regular job he couldnt understand the hostility.

anyway he decided he would tackle this problem head on at the very next door.

barry

My Dad is her in Canberra staying with us and tonight I mentioned about how I get on JWD and how this site works.

He told me a great storey tonight about some SDAs collecting for a charity over in Wagga NSW where he onced lived.

Anyway this bloke was going door to door trying to get donations he had a bag just like JWs carry. The going was hard people didnt want to even talk to him and being a good salesperson as he was in his regular job he couldnt understand the hostility. Anyway he decided he would tackle this problem head on at the very next door. The next door a lady opened the door and before she could get a word out he said, 'Im collecting for charity and Im not a Jehovahs witness' At that the somewhat startled householder replied 'Well Iam a Jehovahs witness.' It just so happened he picked the wrong house.

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If only the new system was real...

by misspeaches in

i sent my mum an e-mail the other day to let her know about steve irwin's tragic accident.

this morning i got her reply:he will thrive in the new system when he will be able to get up close and personal with all wild creatures without fear.

tis really sad as he was a good genuine man.. .

barry

You have to be carefull with koala bears because when they get nervous they will piss all over you. I think it was Prince Charles found that out on one of his visits here.

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But what if they're right............still the Truth?

by ScoobySnax in

this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.

it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.

i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.

barry

Schooby, The doctrine where Jesus came down and inspected all the churches in 1914 is based on the day year rule and the historicist method of interpretation of the bible. The Adventists have a similar doctrine its called the investigative judgement doctrine in 1844 .

Both doctrines take liberties with the interpretation of scripture and methods scholars would not support. Im an SDA myself and dont beleive such these doctrines. I make it well known in my own church these interpretations are rubbish and not supported by scripture.

Schooby some adventist are brainwashed just like you its not uncommon.