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  Will Jehovah's Witnesses ever form a SECT?

  by Fisherman in

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  unlike all other religions including jews, mormons, and sda, there is only one jw movement.

  indivuduals that leave the wts cannot organize another jw like religion.

  i think that another jw religion would get the wts very angry.

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  barry

  A group of Jws breaking off and forming a sect would have little impact on the WT Society as a whole.

  What needs to happen is the sect needs to be formed among card holding JWs themselves. If IT was possible for Ray Franz to get a following inside the WT society so a large number of JWs would follow his opinions this would have the effect of forcing the WT society to accomodate their opinions or be faced with a large split in the JW religion.

  This is precicely how other churches work and is a good thing because it keeps everyone honest and tolerant of others. In the SDAs my own church there are traditional Adventists , Evengelical Adventists , Liberals just to name a few and all are accepted .

  The WT society will eventially evolve into a more reasonable institution.
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  Is speaking in tongues for Christians today, and what is it?

  by jwfacts in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower claims speaking in tongues was restricted to the first century, though it seems quite clear that this was something to be practiced in the last days.

  should christians today speak in tongues and what exactly is it?

  i am wondering about the reasoning as some christian religions practice it and others don't.

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  Gday again jwfacts,

  Im not an Ellen White fan I think I may have one of her books and that was given to me.

  It is widely known even in Adventist circles Ellen White plagurised from other writers most of which she claimed to write. In some ways this was a blessing because the result was that Adventism remained with the basic doctrins of the christian church because of the plagurism of other christian writers

  I remember a few years ago at an afternoon meeting by a high church official who was trying his best to put a good word in for Ellen White. The meeting was being recorded and when I piped up with some negative opinions of Ellen White and her ministry all hell broke loose. 'Stop the recording ', he yelled and then he went to advise me to talk to my minister.

  Ellen white did have an ability to hold the church together during its formative years and at the same time not become a cult leader as Josheph Smith has become in the Mormon Church. Her theme allways was to uphold Christ.at the same time She has made serious errors in judgement. Barry
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  Is speaking in tongues for Christians today, and what is it?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower claims speaking in tongues was restricted to the first century, though it seems quite clear that this was something to be practiced in the last days.

  should christians today speak in tongues and what exactly is it?

  i am wondering about the reasoning as some christian religions practice it and others don't.

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  barry

  Speaking in tongues from my reading of the bible seems to mean an unintelligable language or a heavanly language. Many Seventh Day Adventists in Africa also attend penticostal meetings to have the experiance of speaking in tongues. Barry
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  Do you think Jesus gave every Christian a personal commission to preach?

  by under_believer in

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  "go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you.

  i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

  " (matthew 28:19, 20 | nwt) .

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  barry

  Leolaia has the scripture and to make a point havent the JWs got it just as wrong as the various tongue speaking groups. MAny tongue speaking groups say every christian must speak in tongues to receive the holy spirit but the scripture says only some have that gift.

  Barry
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  144000, Where did Russell get his idea, and what do other religions believe

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where did russell get the notion that the 144k are a literal number, and that they are the rulers in heaven?

  what do other religions believe this group to represent?.

  what did john really mean?.

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  Some SDAs used to beleive that only 144000 people would be saved and probably some still do beleive it. My Dad told me once about an SDA evangelist who beleived only 144000 would be saved until a person pointed out to him the small number 144000 is and how he was reducing his chance of being saved given the humber of christians in of the world ets. He changed his mind soon after that discussion.
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  The Cooling World

  by JW_Researcher in

  1. watchtower
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  article also here click here.

  can't seem to post the jpg large enough to be read..

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  barry

  I remember reading somewhere that in Roman times England was warm enough to grow grapes and tahts 2 thousand years ago
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  In Defense of Christmas

  by Kenneson in

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  i just came across an interesting article in the jamaica-gleaner on christmas.

  it is entitled "christ born to die.

  " thought some of you might like to read it.. http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20061227/cleisure/cleisure3.html.

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  barry

  This artical supprised me because Seventh Day Adventists do celeebrate Christmas and often have a Xmas tree in their churches.
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  Politically Correct Hillbillies

  by kitten whiskers in

  1. social
  2. humour

  saw this in the newspaper.

  thought you all would enjoy!.

  " due to the climate of political correctness now pervading america, those of us in alabama, georgia, virginia, west virginia and kentucky will no longer be referred to as, "hillbillies".

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  When I went to California for a holiday they called me an Australian hillbilly because of my accent and now if i go back I wont be so offended. Good Idear this political correctness.
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  Australia wins back the Ashes

  by barry in

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  2. friends

  just thought all the poms might like to know as they eat their breakfast this morning australia just won the third test to take back the ashes.. warney now has 699 test wickets four of which he got from englands second innings..

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  Just to explain to our foreign readers here the Ashes I refer to are in an ern in England and are the Ashes of the Cricket stumps burnt in a match over a hundred years ago. When Australia first won in a cricket match in England it was too much for an English lady who gathered the Cricket stumps together and burnt them. thereafter the Ashes have been kept in an ern in England and the match between Australia and England has been known as the Ashes
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  Australia wins back the Ashes

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just thought all the poms might like to know as they eat their breakfast this morning australia just won the third test to take back the ashes.. warney now has 699 test wickets four of which he got from englands second innings..

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  barry

  Just thought all the poms might like to know as they eat their breakfast this morning Australia just won the third test to take back the Ashes.

  Warney now has 699 test wickets four of which he got from Englands second innings.