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  Darwin's defense of missionaries

  by Dogpatch in

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  interesting article on darwin: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2007-07-01-darwin-missionaries_n.htm?csp=1 more than a century after his death, people are still trying to understand charles darwin.

  and a new report says those who label him anti-religion are wrong.

  the 19th century english biologist famous for his theory of evolution supported christian missionary work his entire adult life, reports a cultural historian.

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  I recall reading dsomewhere Darwins father was a clergyman
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  WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

  by A-Team in

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  nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

  28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

  29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

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  Gday Waynel, Yes the witnesses are unscriptual to reject xmas for the reason in Romans 14.5 One man considers one day more important than another, another man considers every day alike. While this is talking about the jewish festivals it also shows there was great flexibility in the early church where people accepted differing positions.

  On hell in the catholic church it is a left over from the middle ages the pope doesnt beleive in everlasting torement.

  Also why the preoccupation in useing the scriptures in youre proofs.

  Imagine if you were a christian in say 200ad you may ony have a few books of the bible remember it wasnt until about 369ad that the christian church decided on the whole nt as we have it today I t was accually tradition which determined which books were included in the new testiment as you may know the book of clement was not included, the book of revelation was the last to be accepted because some people thought it wasnt written by John.

  So it is with the trinity it was accepted very early sure not all the details had been thrashed out. The creed of Ceasareer was developed into the Nicean creed and the creed of Ceasareer was accully a baptisimal statement. In fact their were many baptisimal statements all haveing the same patern. The earliest baptisimal statement was found only about 100 years ago and is as follows .

  We beleive in God the father maker of heaven and earth

  And in his son Jesus Christ our lord

  And in the holy spirit

  And in th eforgiveness of sins.

  Does this statement look familure? Isnt it the framework of the Nicean creed?
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  Is celebrating the 4th of July really wrong??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  good evening all.... well, like many of you i have, and am still doing my share of never ending research.

  thought i would do a little research on the 4th of july and what its "roots" were.

  as a witness, i had never given much thought to it except it was a nationalistic day to be patriotic, and it was a no no for us to participate in.

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  Yes celebrating on july the 4th is wrong, The night to celebrate with fireworks is june the 17th, the queens birthday. Poor old King George 111 never got over losing the colonies and all over a lame excuse of not wanting to pay there taxes. The colonies had just been freed from French oppression and England had the right to extract some compensation in taxes to offset the considerable cost of the war. Just remember folks June 17th the Queens birthday.
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  Anyone been to this JW site?

  by Tatiana in

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  http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=330&pid=3878&mode=threaded&start=0#entry3878.

  i may be late, and it may have been posted before, but i just came across this site that seems to have many jws posting and it's an eye opener for sure.

  i read many posts, and some posters are just a step away from being here.

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  I had a look there but its still very strict, the only leeway is slight different interpretations from the WT interpretations.
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  What is your most favorite hobby?

  by R.F. in

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  just wanting to find out some of you all's hobbies.. my favorite is video gaming.

  i love it and i love visiting video gaming stores.

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  flying RC model aircraft I have a 33% ultimate with an 80cc motor
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  Aboriginal Day of Protest

  by Paralipomenon in

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  up in canada there have been alot of frustrations over native land claims.

  there is a governmental backlog of over 600 claims and the native communities are getting frustrated.

  several tribes have taken up occupying controversial areas and there have been a few road blocks of crucial transport systems.

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  Gday Sam87,

  In the past Aboriginal communities were dry and were much better off than they are now. You know the situation as it is unfolding now with the prime minister announcing the inititives to help aboriginal communities to get them off alcohol and declaring communities dry. As I have said either on purpose or not aboriginal people have been controled by alcohol.
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  Posted a question about the cross/stake on Yahoo

  by rassillon in

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  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=aquuntl1rtw8yezsxghq7fdd7br.

  should i have linked back to one of the good discussions here?

  check out some of the answers i am getting.

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  The most amazing thing is the WT Society lists there opinion on this as a major doctrine. It comes from memory about third in their list of doctrines.
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  Aboriginal Day of Protest

  by Paralipomenon in

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  up in canada there have been alot of frustrations over native land claims.

  there is a governmental backlog of over 600 claims and the native communities are getting frustrated.

  several tribes have taken up occupying controversial areas and there have been a few road blocks of crucial transport systems.

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  Here in Australia we have a different way of controlling the Aboriginals. The government gives them lots of handouts, the aboriginal people call it sit down money, that they use to buy lots of grog and there too anebreiated to try anything such a day of protest
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  Education Talk from Follow the Christ DC

  by FadingAway in

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  justitia themis had a topic 'disgusting comment re: education from tacoma 2007 district convention' regarding a talk on education that those pursuing degrees would be d.e.a.d.

  unfortunately that stupid comment was not made at the dc i attended, but i am providing the audio to let ones know how far the society is going in discouraging ones from pursuing college by using weak and tired arguments.. http://www.box.net/shared/s523re4c7i.

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  I just listened to the talk and its amazing how two different cults could be so different. The SDA religion actually promotes higher education and they have their own colleges. Of course higher education has its own problems for cults like thinking for oneself and it does cause some problems for the SDA leadership when people are trained to be smart.

  The speaker brought up old memories at the Kingdom Hall of how much they use the word Jehovah, constantly.
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  I caught a 'good standing' JW with another woman

  by jaffacake in

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  hi old friends, .

  the reason i joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a jw.

  well, i failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.

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  Gday jaffacake, Good to hear from you after so long.