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  19th century century Prophets could our Mormon friends comment

  by barry in

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  ive just been listening on utube to learn about joseph smith and im wondering how our mormon friends view joseph.

  qcmbr, susanhere and others.. i saw on th emovie how joseph had a vison of moroni and joseph was supprised moroni was white and said he was a jew.

  jews happen to have dark skin like greeks or lebonese people they are semetic while the american indians are of the mongolian race.two different races altogether.. i also saw on the movie how joseph translated the plates by putting them in a hat with the two stones and waiting for the light to come so he could translate to the writer.

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  I have a few more questions about th ebook of mormon.

  Why is it there is no Archeological evidence for the book of mormon including no coins being found that were mentioned in the BOM, none of the 38 cities in the BOM have ever been found and not even one artifact been found?

  The top Archeologist of BYU confirms this.

  On the other hand we have coins used in bible times we have the cities mentioned in the bible being found and excavated .

  The information I have also indicates various statements have been expounged in Joseph Smiths books. On the other hand the scholars of the bible are allways ready to find evaluate any small evidence found out about the bible even small fragements of texts.

  There is also a book called the book of Abrahame that was translated by Joseph Smith even though he had no knowledge of the language. Scholars later found the manuscript to be nothing like Joseph Smith had written in his book.
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  19th century century Prophets could our Mormon friends comment

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ive just been listening on utube to learn about joseph smith and im wondering how our mormon friends view joseph.

  qcmbr, susanhere and others.. i saw on th emovie how joseph had a vison of moroni and joseph was supprised moroni was white and said he was a jew.

  jews happen to have dark skin like greeks or lebonese people they are semetic while the american indians are of the mongolian race.two different races altogether.. i also saw on the movie how joseph translated the plates by putting them in a hat with the two stones and waiting for the light to come so he could translate to the writer.

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  Gday Qcmbr,

  Hope you and youre family have a very merry xmas and thanks for the reply so soon.

  The reason I brought up the issue on the white skin of Moroni is because Joseph Smith asked Moroni why he had white skin to which Moroni replyed that originally all the native peoples of north America had white skin but it was made red by God because they rebelled.

  I would still like an answer to how can the American Indians be the offspring of the Jewish people when they are of different races one mongolian the other semetic?

  I dont dought Joseph Smith was a smart bloke but there are many smart people around.

  No I dont beleive SDA nonsense or bull about the SDA Prophet Ellen White and dont beleive her words should be used to interpret scripture as some SDAs use her writings. I beleive the only way someone claiming spiritual gifts should be tested in subjection the scripture or else we end up in a mental loop with no way of finding truth.

  Barry
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  19th century century Prophets could our Mormon friends comment

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ive just been listening on utube to learn about joseph smith and im wondering how our mormon friends view joseph.

  qcmbr, susanhere and others.. i saw on th emovie how joseph had a vison of moroni and joseph was supprised moroni was white and said he was a jew.

  jews happen to have dark skin like greeks or lebonese people they are semetic while the american indians are of the mongolian race.two different races altogether.. i also saw on the movie how joseph translated the plates by putting them in a hat with the two stones and waiting for the light to come so he could translate to the writer.

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  Ive just been listening on utube to learn about Joseph Smith and Im wondering how our Mormon friends view Joseph. Qcmbr, Susanhere and others.

  I saw on th emovie how Joseph had a vison of Moroni and Joseph was supprised Moroni was white and said he was a Jew. Jews happen to have dark skin like Greeks or lebonese people they are semetic while the American Indians are of the mongolian race.Two different races altogether.

  I also saw on the movie how Joseph translated the plates by putting them in a hat with the two stones and waiting for the light to come so he could translate to the writer.

  When the writer hid the orininal transcript God got very angry with Joseph and said he would not allow him to translate from Lehi anymore and future translations would be from Levi. How convenient both books were the same account just happen to be written slightly different wording.

  I would like to know if you Mormons accually beleive this bull... and if as a church their are many dissenters?

  Im an SDA [Seventh day Adventist ]and we have a Prophet Ellen White who has also some baggage such as plagerising materal from other writers including Joseph and contradicting the bible by supporting the early Adventists with their erronious doctrine of the investigative judgement and the events surrounding 1844. The doctrine flys in the face of the protestant gospel of righteousness by faith and so many Adventists teach just the same as the roman church on Justification. .

  Ellen White beleive the black races were an amalgamation of humans breeding with animals.

  Ellen White was no where as colourful as Joseph she spent most of her time telling other people where they were wrong and said it was from god and telling them not to play cricket and ride bicycles.
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  Greetings from a recovering mormon

  by FormerMormon in

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  greetings from the other side of the street,.

  i just loved having you guys proselytizing on the other side of the street when we were tracting.

  i am a recovering mormon with a believing spouse / family.

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  I liked the southpark mormons when I came to this page they have a real sense of humour, and I like it.
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  Global warming? Maybe next year.

  by a Christian in

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  year of global coolingby david deming.

  december 19, 2007 .

  al gore says global warming is a planetary emergency.

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  barry

  No Kewling here in Australia, as we are in the middle of summer here and snow is forcast in the southern eastern states this weekend
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  It's time for Ask al-Zawahri

  by SacrificialLoon in

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  the number 2 in al-qaida will field questions from "individuals, agencies and all media".

  so, what would you ask this *ahem* gentleman?.

  http://ap.google.com/article/aleqm5iyggeqof88u0ljahymae6iv3e6oad8tkkcrg0

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  Also note the many references to the sharia the most horrific law known to man. This law is so evil and barbaric it is not enacted in its completeness by even the most extreem Islamic nations.
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  It's time for Ask al-Zawahri

  by SacrificialLoon in

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  the number 2 in al-qaida will field questions from "individuals, agencies and all media".

  so, what would you ask this *ahem* gentleman?.

  http://ap.google.com/article/aleqm5iyggeqof88u0ljahymae6iv3e6oad8tkkcrg0

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  sixofnine why dont you read youre own post? "You said at the beginning that Alquida never made demands about about America being Muslim but later in the post there is a reference of calling people to Islam?

  Beleive what you want but Bin Laden is a religious fanatic and no amount of appeasement will satisfy him he beleives the violence of jihad will go on to the day of judgement and nothing any of us do can change his murdereous ways.

  It should also be noted the palestine was never an issue with alquada until recently and the kurdish problem has never been an issue either.

  Sixofnine youre being conned.
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  calling all firearm freaks...............

  by primitivegenius in

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  looking at the gopher thread............. we got us some good old fashioned redneck gun afficiandos................ just curious......... whats your top ten wish list.... pairs dont count as two.

  ) a pair of les baer srp's built on a para ordinace p 14.45 frame......... all stainless but with baer coat im thinking olive and i want the light rail.

  ) a pair of consecutive sn ruger vaqueros in .45 colt w/ extra .45 acp cylinders rebuilt by gary reeder or doug turnbull..........4.5 barrel.

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  Ive got a 30 30 pop gun but I want one of those 50 cal sniper rifles.
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  Weirdest Koran Qoutes = "Beat your Wife, Worship Adam, Men turned into apes

  by Witness 007 in

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  adam- sura 1:1 "{allah} only you we worship.

  " however, surah 2:25,26 allah tells the angels to worship adam since he can name all the animals.

  one angel refused and became satan.??

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  I beleive that in the Australian constitution written about 100 years ago it gives men permission to beat their wives but not more than ones a week and not with a stick bigger than their little finger. Of course this behavour is now considered in prehistoric terms by todays generation.
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  Would You date a black man or black woman?

  by Save My Soul in

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  my sister-in-law is recently divorced and went to a witness online dating site.

  she mentioned that many of the witnesses specified that they wanted a white or latino only.

  of course there is nothing wrong with this (personal preference), but i found it interesting.

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  I think Indian women are the most beautiful women I have ever seen the only trouble in my younger days people of colour were not allowed into Australia a policy called the 'white Australia policy.'