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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  Ok I should have spelt it status sorry.

  Those are not my opinions they are the requirements in my own words of the UNHCR [ United Nations High Commission of Refugees] if you read my earlier post I have a lawyer friend that wrote into Australian law the requirements to meet the United Nations standard which is actually more generous to asylum seekers than is required under the UNHCR ruleing.

  Even the Jewish minority in Iran is not persecuted they have a Jewish person in government at this time which is a permanent position and under UNHCR women are not refugees just because you say so, even though they are treated as second class according to our standards.
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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  I believe there a a few misconceptions as to who should be classified as a refugee.

  Refugees are not people that travel to another country for a better life If that was the case most people in poorer countries could claim refugee statis and come to Australia such as most of

  China

  Refugees are required to report to the first country of safety they reach and register as a refugee and be assessed as to their statis.

  Refugees do not have vast amounts of money under the UNHCR this would raise some concern as to their statis.

  Refugees are usually from wartorn areas such as the Asaras from Afganistan and shouldn't be sent back the people from Iran are not refugees as a rule as there is no conflict there.
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  I went to a Lutheran church last week

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  we were on holidays and while my sister in law took my son to her church the catholic church i felt i would prefer my regular church the anglican one.

  when we arrived to the site of the church we realised it was a lutherine church.

  i decided to go there anyway.

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  We were on holidays and while my sister in law took my son to her church the Catholic church I felt I would prefer my regular church the Anglican one. When we arrived to the site of the church we realised it was a Lutherine church. I decided to go there anyway. The service was very traditional and even though I resisted somewhat the deakon insisted I take communion with them. I have read they have a belief in the presents of our lord Jesus in the bread called consubstanciation and because of this they may be more strict.

  I have allways thought of the Lutherans as being at the forefront of the reformation and even the witness books I believe have them coloured in favourable light If I remember correctly. Barry
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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  Jeffro, There is no hint of any racist scare-mongering at all in that video.

  What the video did show is that most Iranians have flown to Indonesia to board a boat to Australia or else how did they get there?

  These are middle class economic refugees which means they aren't refugees at all proven by the fact they had papers from the UNHCR that rejected their claim of refugee statis.

  The family interviewed paid 24000 dollars to people smugglers.

  I would like to see more interviews with people in camps that don't have 24000 dollars to pay to people smugglers.

  The people in the area were mostly from Iran. I believe the last war was over 30 years ago in that part of the world.
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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebJUPdf5Z-q0
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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  Im still working on it
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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  Jeffro , I was writing in the context of asylum seekers boarding a boat from Indonesia where they fly into Indonesia because to fly there a passport is required to board a plane.

  And no I don't believe a genuine refugee would have a passport in most cases
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  To the pome's out there. Are you going to let us win a test in this Ashes series

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  i mean we aussie team has 583 runs to get in our last innings after england declared with 3 wickets in hand.

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  I think we need to get Shane Warne back if we can drag him out of the arms of Liz Hurley.
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  Rudds new asylum seeker policy

  by barry in

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  2. friends

  to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.

  i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.

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  As I said before asylum seekers could board a plane and fly to Sydney without problem because the Australian visa wouldn't be checked at departure. At Sydney airport they would ask for refugee statis and Australian officials would have to investigate to determine refugee statis. The reason this approach is not popular is because at departure their passport and boarding pass would be checked nothing more. An asylum seeker holding a passport is at a great dissadvantage because checks can then be made of that persons claims.

  Australia has a refugee policy only if we accept genuine refugees because our government decides how many refugees we will accept each year and when the quota is met we have fulfilled our responsibility as part of the world community and one of the few countries such as the US , Canada and some European nations. Thats Why it's important we are very sure who we are giving refugee statis to. Amanda Vanstone said in a TV program it's very hard to go to a refugee camp in other countries with meager facilities and tell a 12 year old girl that has been there all her life that Australia has allready taken its quota of refugees and there is no room for her.