this is what europe is becoming?
my work colleague in germany sent my this article in an email and it is perhaps one of the most disturbing things i have heard yet.
i have been hearing about many of these recent homophobic and transphobic hate crimes taking place across europe but this one slipped through the cracks.
Ann Indonesian Imam has written a fatwa saying its OK for a father to lust after his daughter as long as she is 13 years old . the fatwa also declared an engaged couple shouldn't hold hands because other Muslims may stone them for indecency. The website was taken down in a few days because of objections.
I think we would all find these things disturbing but I believe Islam is a different animal than all the others
this is what europe is becoming?
my work colleague in germany sent my this article in an email and it is perhaps one of the most disturbing things i have heard yet.
i have been hearing about many of these recent homophobic and transphobic hate crimes taking place across europe but this one slipped through the cracks.
I think we should ask some questions about Political Islam and that should not be an attack on all Muslims. There are moderate muslims but there is no moderate Islam.
When analysing Islam we have to determine the reasons for their behaviour for some it is because they are just bad people taking advantage of others and committing crimes as any other religious person may. I would suggest that Political Islam has some very difficult problems unique from other religions.
Racism The Arab people have writings the Koran, the 6 Hadiths and the Sira and these writings regard all non Arab peoples to be Inferior.
The treatment of women. The Islamic writings give women no rights in Islamic countries and in those countries if a women is raped the women is then killed. The rapist gets off . We should ask ourselves the question is this what is happening in Europe? Men are not responsibe for rape.
Mohammad approved of rape of prisoners of war and the rape of children remember he married a 6 year old. Mohammad being the perfect example for Muslims to follow is believed by all Muslims just as Christians follow the example of Jesus . This is why we see child brides here is Australia being married to older men and also because Islam believes if they live in a western country they are in the house of non Islam and so at war. Could this be the reason muslims believe they can rape in western countries . Some Imams and even a female Imam have said western women should be raped by muslim immigrant men to be humiliated.
I could go on but this is just the tip of the iceberg.
for those who may not be aware, the 1914 date was arrived at by russell by using the same framework of the failed prophetic interpretations of the adventist preacher william miller.
see this chart:.
if you look at the top right of the chart, he uses the same 7-times reasoning to arrive at the 2,520 years (7 times=7 multiplied by 360-day years=2,520 years).
Adventists today when calculating the 1844 date use Daniel 8;14 which gives 2300 days converted to years.
The starting point for this calculation is 457 bc which is also the starting date for the prophecy in Daniel 9 which gives the prophecy when Jesus was crucified and Stephen was stoned. There is a verse there somewhere which Adventists use to give the meaning that the time period in Daniel 9 was cut off from the longer period of the 2300 days.
The other interesting point about Millers reasoning is his calculations were made from various parts of the bible to arrive at 1844 and he believed a number of even weak points would strengthen his point of view. A strange concept indeed.
This doctrine is still taught by the right wing SDAs but is almost forgotten by the theologians because it just can't be proven.
if so, they probably won't come forward for a while, then when they do, they'll probably be dragged into the back room for a talk about how the dubs don't gamble, then the winner says he'll donate some, and of course all will be forgiven, then the dub may finally see the hypocrisy of the cult and denounce them on national tv as they hold up that big giant check for all to see!
Islam does infringe on our rights right now. What newspaper anywhere in the world will publish a cartoon of their Islamic prophet ?
The Islamists have their law and they have their punishment and it will be enforced on you where ever you are.
There is no Islam light or moderate Islam. There are only moderate muslims or those that are not practicing.
i know the arc is old news i know i am preaching to the converted but i had to express how i feel because most of my jw friends and family dont want to hear .
so this is how i feel.
i have faithfully served as a jehovahs witness for over 25 years..
Gday simple minds,
You're very courageous to come to this site many witnesses just wouldn't do that. I have the utmost respect for your stand in trying to make a difference because what happened in the past is done but from now on things can change and only people like you can make a difference.
You're right no one can say you are apostate for your stand but even the WT lawyer seemed defiant even after all the evidence and rulings of the ARC. The WT lawyer was very much controlled by the dictates of the Society. Many here will be praying for your efforts because one more victim is too many.
was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?
(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?
i mean everything else is changing why not the name!
Thanks Loveunihate exams, for your insights about the left in France v Anglo.
If any of you know much about Germain Greer remember she wrote the book The female eunic.
Well Germaine has come out with a book just recently saying FGM Female Genital Mutilation should not be criticised because culture should take precedence over human rights in brown countries. She likened the example of a Goth in a western country getting their genitals pierced for jewellery to a 6year old girl being mutilated.
Everyone can see the 6year old has no choice in this painful dangerous and unnecessary operation that will impact her life into old age and in many cases cause her death at 6 years at the time of her marriage or at child birth.
Germains stand in itself is a form of racism because of someones skin colour they have to suffer this inhumane treatment.
Village Idiot, There is a moderate Christianity because the thinking is that The Law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ that we may be justified by faith' Not in the old way of a written law but in the new way of the spirit'.
Islam doesn't have that its the violent Medina verses that are taken as authority over the more peaceful Mecca verses.
I can't comment of the Jewish theology but I find the Jewish state a beacon of democracy in the middle of hell.
coalize, So would you feel happy living in an Islamic no go zone in France or England where the police can't enter. In Australia we have an Islamic population of less than 2% and channel nine reporters are required to wear bullet proof vests in western Sydney. Islam has a problem like no other religion.
I repeat there is no moderate Islam but there are moderate Muslims which are those that don't take the teachings seriously.
