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  Do you think the JWs are more extreme than the Mormons?

  by Qcmbr in

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  i'm just feeling a little naughty today - i'm just kinda interested in your views.

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  barry

  Ive met a few Mormons and even been to their church.

  One of the first lessons they will give you they will talk about Joseph Smith and ask you to receive him as youre prophet and to pray that the Holy Spirit leads you to that conclusion.

  If you go to their church you will be put in a class for non mormons and be taught their beleifs. I once had a girl friend who told me about her former boy friend who was a mormon. She told me they have two priesthoods the Aronic and the moronic priesthood. She told me how proud her former boyfriend was that he was to be a moronic priest.

  Mormon missionarys sometimes go to Churches of other denominations to try to get converts, while I havent experianced that, my Dad is an SDA elder and he told me they went to his church.

  They dont seem to be as extreme as the JWs
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  christian words or expressions you will never hear a jdub say

  by in a new york bethel minute in

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  gospel, grace, born again, the lord, saints, virgin mary... any more?.

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  barry

  Im not a JW but I beleive they dont say the Lords prayer
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  Been searching scriptures for "salvation"

  by jaffacake in

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  i?ve been given a nwt bible, but don't understand how jws believe as they do.

  why does the ?bible topics for discussion?

  include some issues, eg celebrating birthdays, that seem less important compared with the question of how to attain salvation.

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  barry

  I understand salvation this way.

  When we beleive we are saved and with that simple act we have salvation and can be no more condemed than the father can condemn christ. Justification is 100% is allways ours because only perfection can save us. Sometimes is reffered to as salvation from the guilt of sin.

  Santification is the process whereby we become more like christ it may only be a fraction of 1% and is the work of the holy spirit in our lives to be more christlike and is salvation from the power of sin.

  Glorification is the salvation from the presents of sin when Jesus comes and we are perfect and only then will our justification = our santification.

  The issue at the time of the reformation was is a christian when justified is made righteous or declared righteous. The reformers beleived justification is to declare righteous because our righteousness is not of our own making it is in heaven and is the righteousness of christ.
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  My JW brother is dating

  by jwNOT in

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  ha!

  a few months ago my jw father and stepmother took me and my kids to a movie (rated g...lol).

  anyway my grown jw brother who still lives with them called on their cell phone and he was planning on his "friend" coming over.

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  barry

  Ive never been a JW but the lady I studied with would come to my house for the study alone and I would go to her,s too. At the kingdom hall she told me not to sit with her during meetings because the elders may think there was something going on. Is that nuts or what.?
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  My phone battery went flat Bliss

  by barry in

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  sorry about that bliss but if you do want me to get rid of those wasps or have a problem im at youre service.

  im not doing anything this afternoon anyway.

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  barry

  Sorry about that Bliss but if you do want me to get rid of those wasps or have a problem Im at youre service. Im not doing anything this afternoon anyway.
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  Has anybody seen the Australian film The Nostradomus Kid?

  by Whiskeyjack in

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  i need help from all you aussie's out there.. most people i know have never heard of this movie.

  it was written by john ellis (i believe) and deals with a young adolescent man's loss of faith (seventh day adventists) during the early sixties.

  i never laughed so much.

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  barry

  Ive never heard of it and Im an SDA myself. You have me interested now wonder if the Church members can help me .
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  How much of a Witness are you? Take the quiz!

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i've wasted most of a day putting this quiz together.

  it's only 10 questions, please give it a go and see what you get!.

  if you think it could make a decent anti-witnessing tool, i might dress it up with links to the quotes site and the watchtower site to prove the accuracy of the points made.. if you see any inaccuracies or misleading comments, please let me know.. url = http://www.thebentinel.com/jw-quiz.php (embedded below).

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  barry

  Im 20% witness but ive never been one Ive mostly been a SDA. Barry
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  Yankee or Dixie? (fluff)

  by hemp lover in

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  i love these stupid online quiz thingies.

  (i'm 74% dixie, in case you're wondering.).

  http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lgrob/southern_dialect_quiz.htm

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  barry

  Im 64% Dixie and Im 100% Australian. Cant work it out. Barry
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  Church from Bible, Bible from Church?

  by Big Dog in

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  after leaving the borg and through research convincing myself that the wbts did not have the "truth" i began to read a wide variety of religous materials and tried to delve into as many faiths as possible.

  i was curious what others believed and after growing up in such an insular faith i found it fascinating to learn about all the different philosophies and beliefs.

  one particular issue i found especially interesting, and that was the issue of sola scriptura, " simply stated, the protestant doctrine of sola scriptura ("scripture alone") teaches that every teaching in christian theology (everything pertaining to "faith and practice") must be able to be derived from scripture alone.

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  barry

  From what Ive learnt most of the canon was there by the second century but Hebrews to Revelation were not accepted until later Revelation being the last to be accepted in the eastern churches because they beleived Revelation was not written by John. In 371ad was the first time we have all the books listed as the canon by Pope Damasis. I beleive the catholic position is correct that the bible is a product of the church but I also beleive the church must agree with scripture or otherwise there are inconsistancies in youre beleif system.

  What I found as very interesting is the fact that in the early church the baptisimal formula varied from different areas and was slightly different in wording but was allways trinitarian which later developed into the creeds. Vincent of lerins in the 5th centry talked about this and said christian doctrine is developed just as a child grows into a man. The modern champion of the developement of doctrine is John Henry Newman who wrote an essay on the developement of christian doctrine in 1845
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  The rise and fall of my R/C Helicopter! :-(

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  it's the most money i've spent on a toy since as long as i can remember, a little over $300.

  i spun it around on the floor a bit (like the video said i was supposed to) and in about 3 minutes of that, i managed to crash it -- into my own leg, no less -- and break off the thingy that holds on the blades.

  argh!!!

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  barry

  Their too hard to fly. If helicopters were ment to fly they would have wings.

  I do fly the fixed wing ones and I have a one third pitts special as my next project with a 50cc engine.