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  How American are you Quiz

  by JH in

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  take the quiz

  you are 66% americanmost times you are proud to be an american.. though sometimes the good ole us of a makes you cringe.

  still, you know there's no place better suited to be your home.. you love your freedom and no one's going to take it away from you!

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  Im 46% American but then I am an Australian.
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  Anyone here have access to deer meat or sausage?

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  i haven't had access to deer meat for awhile and i'm hoping to find another source.

  i'm hoping one of you might like to go deer hunting, or might know someone who does.. thanks!

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  Lots of Deer meat here in Australia and also beleive it or not we have kangaroo meet sold in the supermarket now here too. I tried some for the first time a few weeks ago. Slightly gamey taste and very lean. I cant say Im going to buy it again soon. Barry
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  The Mainstreaming of the WT Society

  by barry in

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  ive seen several posts questioning how long it will be before the wt enters the mainstream.

  this is an artical about the mainstreaming of adventism and maybe in the future this artical could be written about the wt society and we are talking about sister churches here.

  the sdas have had a start on the jw since they were formed as a church in the 1860 in times past many denominations that exist today have been fringe groups.

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  We will have to keep reminding them they are just an offshoot of the millerites then and bring themdown to earth.
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  The Mainstreaming of the WT Society

  by barry in

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  ive seen several posts questioning how long it will be before the wt enters the mainstream.

  this is an artical about the mainstreaming of adventism and maybe in the future this artical could be written about the wt society and we are talking about sister churches here.

  the sdas have had a start on the jw since they were formed as a church in the 1860 in times past many denominations that exist today have been fringe groups.

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  Ive seen several posts questioning how long it will be before the WT enters the mainstream. This is an artical about the Mainstreaming of Adventism and maybe in the future this artical could be written about the WT Society and we are talking about sister churches here. The SDAs have had a start on the JW since they were formed as a church in the 1860 In times past many denominations that exist today have been fringe groups.

  http://www.spectrummagazine.org/library/columns2003/030707guy.html
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  7th day adventists

  by yaddayadda in

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  can anyone direct me to a good website or thread on here that talks about any spin-off groups after they officially accepted the trinity doctrine, in the early 1980's i think, in order to join the world council of churches.

  was there any fragmentation in the 7th day adventists when this happened?

  any help would be appreciated.

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  Wouldnt that be 1880 when they became fully trinitarian not 1990?

  When Barnhouse and Martin studied the SDA in the 50s and they were amazed to find Arian teaching and also trinitarian literature all with the church logo on it. Barnhouse and martin presented this material to Scolars from the general conference and even they were a little taken aback and didnt beleive how it had happened. Of course SDAs in the past have had no clear teaching have had differing positions .
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  The memorial service once a year or once a week? Which is apostolic?

  by greendawn in

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  there is little doubt that the early christians from apostolic times performed the bread and wine ceremony (eucharist) every sunday.

  however russell made it a one time per year event.

  isn't this move strange and suspicious?

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  Jaffacake What type of SDA were you ? Every SDA church that I know celebrates commumion 4 times a year and I should know Im one myself. I never like the footwashing much though. Actually SDAs have open communion so anyone from other denominations can partake even JWs. Barry
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  Does anyone else here fly?

  by james_woods in

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  don't know if this has been done before, but i just got the notion that it would be fun to see if anyone else here is a pilot or private airplane owner?

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  I used to have a licience to fly aerocraft and have flown cessna 172, austers [that are started by hand] piper cherokees.

  I started flying with gliders and I still own a glider its a cherokee 2

  Now i fly model planes and just this morning Ive been flying my one third pitts special with a 50cc motor. Barry
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  why do so many religions claim that Jesus is God?

  by evergreen in

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  hi everyone, i have often wondered why so many religions view jesus as being god.

  every website i look up claiming to be the christian faith strongly believe that this is the case.. i mean the actual trinity doctrine didnt come about untill about the 3rd or 4th century and was originally the catholic church that brought it about.

  although jehovahs witnesses seem to push jesus into the background a lot which is something that has always troubled me.

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  From the middle of the 2nd century there is a baptisimal creed as follows

  I beleive in the Father Lord of all

  and in jesus Christ our Saviour

  and in the Holy Spirit the paraclete

  and in the holy church

  and in the forgiveness of sins

  Doesnt this look like the nicean creed? in fact it is one of many creeds throughout christindom in the early centuries all haveing the same pattern. The creed of Caesarea which predated the nicean creed and was a basis for it in the forth century. Barry
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  why do so many religions claim that Jesus is God?

  by evergreen in

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  hi everyone, i have often wondered why so many religions view jesus as being god.

  every website i look up claiming to be the christian faith strongly believe that this is the case.. i mean the actual trinity doctrine didnt come about untill about the 3rd or 4th century and was originally the catholic church that brought it about.

  although jehovahs witnesses seem to push jesus into the background a lot which is something that has always troubled me.

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  Evergrain you said 'the doctrine of the trinity wasnt formulated until the forth century' well the doctrine of salvation wasnt developed until the 16th century at the time of the protestant reformation and the doctrine of 1914 wasnt developed until the 20th century.

  Vincent of lerins said way back in the fifth century and he could see even then ' Christian doctrine is developed ' just as a child grows into a man . The modern champion of the developement of doctrine is John Henry Newman who wrote a paper on the developement of christian doctrine. By the developement of doctrine we are not talking of changing doctrine changing the bible or trying to bring into the christian church paganism . We are trying to look into scripture and draw out beleifs we hadent seen before , draw out the implications of other doctrine eg if our suyystem of beleif contradicts other beleifs the the whole system comes crashing down. John Henry Newman cites 7 tests to determine if a doctrine is a true developement .
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  WOULD YOU PREACH TO A DOG???

  by minimus in

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  this little gem is from the watchtower, january 15, 2000...."in el salvador,one man tied his vicious dog in front of the door whenever he saw jehovah's witnesses nearby.

  the man would wait for the witnesses to move on, and then he would bring the dog back into the house.

  the brothers were never able to speak to the man.

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  St Franciss of Assisie preached to birds and they are not as smart as dogs. The Franciscan order still exists today and was started about the 12th century. Barry