A court case by two so called stolen generation aboriginals a few years ago proved that these two individuals would have been left on an ant nest to die and that there lives had been saved by the government policys of the day. The present government refuses to say sorry because of this reason and because it would open the floodgates for litigation for the so called stolen generation. The aboriginal people have different values to the white society and for them it is a huge problem to fit into the modern world . probably the aboriginal people have some of the best trackers in the world they are used by the police to solve crimes and are allways right.
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33RABBIT PROOF FENCE --- TRUE STORY/ AUSSIE FILM
by LDH in.
i rented this last night and really loved it.. have any of you blokes and sheilas seen it, then, and what did you think?
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Afgan Muslim to Christian Convert faces DEATH PENALTY !
by Rabbit ini had a cold chill and a shiver vibrate down my spine reading this article.. but, i just don't know why ?
there are certain words i have taken the liberty to highlight below, each of them caused a {{{{{{shiver}}}}}}.. somebody help me out...what is that gives me this 'deja vu' feeling ?.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060322/wl_nm/religion_afghan_dcback to story - helpafghanistan says court to decide fate of convert .
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According to the Sunday Telegraph Afghan Christian Abdul Rahman is likely to be released soon.
Condoleezza Rice has phoned the Afghan President to step up pressure to free Abdul.
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Afgan Muslim to Christian Convert faces DEATH PENALTY !
by Rabbit ini had a cold chill and a shiver vibrate down my spine reading this article.. but, i just don't know why ?
there are certain words i have taken the liberty to highlight below, each of them caused a {{{{{{shiver}}}}}}.. somebody help me out...what is that gives me this 'deja vu' feeling ?.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060322/wl_nm/religion_afghan_dcback to story - helpafghanistan says court to decide fate of convert .
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Our prime minister and treasurer have both gone on the offensive about Muslims who wwould like Sharia law in Australia. I didnt take much notice until Phillip Ruddock come out and said he had been approached by various Islamic groups wanting protection of their culture as they put it. It seems they would be happy to have Sharia law in a free country where they could make Australia ;in the image of there former hell they escaped from. The treasurer Peter Costelllo has suggested to these people or groups they may feel more at home in a place like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
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What I learned at the KH on Sunday 3/19/2006
by MinisterAmos inthe speaker told us that the end is almost here and the storm in australia is the proof that we are in the last days.
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Did they also say that there was no loss of life.?
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wishing all you Aussies best wishes due to Storm.
by rekless in.
hope none of you were affected by the hurricane.. if you were i hope not drastically.. dan
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Gday Wambat,
The Australian people gave 150 million but also the Governmant gave one billion to the Indonesians
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wishing all you Aussies best wishes due to Storm.
by rekless in.
hope none of you were affected by the hurricane.. if you were i hope not drastically.. dan
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The latest news on the cyclone is one billion damage to the economy the banana crop and sugar crop destroyed and the tourist industry decemated in that area. We stocked up on bananas today they are expected to double in price soon. We got some at woolys for $3 a kilo.
The good news is that no loss of life. Amazing.
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Religions that do not go to war.
by jwfacts inmany jw's seem to believe they are the only pacifist religion that does not go to war.
here is a list of others that i found on wikipedia.
other religions that do not participate in war are the church of the brethren, mennonites and society of friends, amish, hutterites, and others in the anabaptist tradition, doukhobors, molokans, bruderhof communities, schwenkfelders, moravians many groups of brethren, and many groups within the pentecostal movement.
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There is not one position on this among Adventists but three and areConciencious objection to war which is the same as the JW position.
Non Combatancy which is joining the forces as a medic or some other non combatant role.
Thirdly to join the military in a full combatant role as justification for this the case for a just war is used.
There are many Adventists right now risking there lives in Irak.
Adventists such as Desmond Doss a non combatant made great contributions to the forces and received the highest awards for his efforts.
Adventists also support those who join the forces in full combatancy roles and support the forces with there clergy.Admiral Black is cheif of clergy in the US Navy and is a Seventh Day Adventist.
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Fastest Watchtower Study in History!
by unclebruce inwhen i started dating susan i became very conscious of my 'standing in the congregation.
susan and her parents attended elizabeth congregation 20kms away.
they knew that i'd missed the sunday morning meeting, so i invited them to meet me for the afternoon session at my kingdom hall.. prospect shared the hall with enfield congregation.
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Gday unclebruce,
I am Just waiting for the day when you will post about youre experiances in New Guinea. They are great stories and sound just like the ones when I was a kid listening to SDA missionarys in that area.Barry
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? for Barry. How do Seven Day Adventists compare to JW's
by jwfacts inhi barry, .
noticed you are online, so i wanted to grab you and find out how you perceive seven day adventists compare to jws: .
1 - equally cult like .
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Gday James,
Just to clear up a few points from the start. William Miller after the great dissappointement of 1843-4 honestly and openly acknowledged his error.
The SDA church after being formed in the 1860s retained the 1844 date and reinterpreted it to be the start of the investigative judgement. Other churches such as the Advent christian church dont have the investigative judgement doctrine.
Other dates such as 1874 were used by second adventists to be the second comming of christ and an invisible presents. Most Adventist churches including the SDAs have never made a time for the second comming.
Anything written on SDA -JW connection and I would be on here in a heartbeat to tell you all about it.
For the purpose of youre question about Millers chronology I will refer to a book recently written by Kai Arasola who is the current president of east Finlands SDA conference. His recent doctoral dissertation from Uppsala University is now making its way through the Adventist scholarly world.
Kai writes, Miller utilised by God,
William Miller was a man of undoubted integrity and a thorough Christian was the founder of the Millerite Movement of the 1840s thet looked for Christs return about 1843-1844.
He insisted that the then current hope for an increasingly better world culminating in a millenium of blessedness was biblicly unfounded. He was correct. The Baptist farmer was . ahead of the theologians.
Miller Mistaken, But Miller accepted prevailing popular views about the interpretation of prophecy using the year-day principle to arrive at significant dates in the christian era and thereby contravened the warnings of Christ in Acts 1-7 and Matthew 24-36.
Millers methods refuted, Kai points out that William Miller had fifteen ways of arriving at 1843-44 as the general time of Christs return, The time prophecy of Daniel 8-14 was only one of Millers proofs and he gave no prominence to it . This is the one used by Adventists.
Bible scholard in Millers time and later looked at Millers fifteen proofs and found them without validity. There were few who could be called bible scholars who were in the Great Dissappointement of 1844.
Kai points out the flimsy nature of Millers chronological pillars. Kai emphasises that the whole scholarly world has repudiated them. He mentions that only Seventh day Adventists, The worldwide church of God and the Jehovahs Witnesses cling to Millers approach in interpreting Prophecy.
When Kai Mentions Seventh Day Adventism he is mainly talking about the traditional SDAs not the scholars of the church.
Critical Quotations,
Firstly and possibly most significantly one can consider what is missing in Millers rules. They make no mention of Christ of salvation or of the gospel. This matches the near total lack of devotional writing in Millers perodicals in spite of the fact that some historicits outside of Millerism sought to interpret prophecies with a Christocentric method only few Millerites expressed any concern about this.
The proofs rest on technical points like biblical and historical chronology which probably gave athe system. Laymen were unable to check the validity of the points themselves and emotional factors and the retoric of the arguement may have led many to decide in favour of Miller.
All of Millers calculations contain a mathematical error. Miller overlooked the non-existence of a year zero which indicates that no Millerite before 1844 did his homework correctly.
Millerites beleived that a multiplication of weak points makes one strong point. Thus the arguement was multiplied into 15 points some of which were justly ridiculed by opponents and brushed aside by supporters.the path of logic
Some of the proofs are not time prophecies at all or their actual intent is turned upside down. The power of religious convictions has rarely followed the paths of logic.
I beleive this book called 'The End of Historicism ' would be as helpfull to JWs as it is to SDAs Barry
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Did you feel uncomfortable going into churches when you were a JW?...
by Hecklerboy ini remember going into churches when i was a jw for wedding or funeral and feeling a sense of dread.
i thought the demons were going to come out of the walls at me.
and of course i had the self-rightous attitude that the church would be destroyed soon in armegeddon.. recently i've been helping teach a karate class at a local baptist church.
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When I met my ex wife for the first time it wasnt long before religion came into it. She had been with the witnesses for about two years but had not been baptised and she decided to come with me to the SDA church. After the main service we were greated outside by the minister of the church and when I put my arm around her i noticed something I thougt very unusual and strange, she was shaking like a leaf . Michelle had only been a study with the JWs and I couldnt understand how this could be. Barry