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  JC ON TAPE

  by SickofLies in

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  http://neocrat.com/sol.mp3 .

  http://www.savefile.com/files/1740618

  sorry for the long file, is there anyone that can clean this up a bit, the quality is actually pretty good considering the mic was hidden and i was in a big room.

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  I couldnt understand most of it partly the accent i think.

  From what i did understand and read here the elder seemed to be talking down to you i dont beleive that is a good tactic on there part with the sort of information out there internet and in this day and age they are just not with it. I once went to the memorial because I was invited by a good JW friend. I also asked my minister to come along if he wanted. What I didnt do was ask for his permission to attend. He dicided to come along with me when he thought about it.

  I one listened to some Catholic nuns saying that dought is a big factor in there own minds and what about us who are less religious than some of these saints.

  Also I am from a Church that prides itself on promoting higher education but that doesnt beleive they dont have some kooky beleifs too a doctrine similar to 1914 which is the doctrine of 1844 I must write about it here soon and all the implications it has.
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  Council of Nicaea / Arius / Constantine and the Bible

  by MissBehave in

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  i've been reading up on the constantine's involvement in the compilation of the bible at the council of nicaea.

  as well as the ousting of arius because of his "controversial" beliefs.

  it's been many years since i've read any watchtower literature...anyone know what the jw's believe / teach / preach regarding this subject.

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  The real issue at Nicea was not the Arian contravercy although Arias provided a catalist in the debaite . Monacanism was also at issue at Nicea but it also was only a catalist in the debate. Monarchism is the beleif that the trinity exists as father son and holy spirit much the same as I as a man am also a father and also and other role I may have in society.

  The debate at Nicea was between the Niceans and the Oregonists. The oregonists beleived God to be at different levels and it seemed to the niceans that they were teaching Arianism while the Niceans less clearly defined the threeness of god and so to the Oregonists seemed to be teaching Monarchism.

  I have a little book called "Christian Thought ' by Tony Lane. Barry
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  Do you think you are normal?

  by jwfacts in

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  i always felt unique from everyone else.

  being a jw i never quite felt like i was from the same planet as all the other school children.

  as a jw i fit in, but still not quite, as i was a bit too indepentdant a thinker.

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  Gday JW facts,

  I think i know what youre saying when I went to school I was a Seventh Day Adventist I mean its such a long name and every year the school teacher would take down details including religion why couldnt it be just a small name like catholic. I would often have to repeat Seventh Day Adventist because the teacher would often say "whats that".I would often be sitting at the back of the classroom the other SDA in my class would allways be smarter and be sitting at the front. Dumb Me.

  We actually thought the JW kids were very cool while we had scripture classes one period per week the JW kids were out in the playground.

  Because we were SDAs and there wasnt a resident minister in the town I lived there was no scripture for SDAs so we had to go to scripture classes of other denominations . I went to the Anglican Prespetarian or Baptist with my friends. I can remember one other Adventist girl wasnt happy with the Anglican minister and she got stuck into him because he often used the word flamin not in relation to hell but that upset her and so she went to the Baptist classes where the minister there promoted evolution and so she was upset about that. Her dad I beleive was a Shepherds Rod SDA at one time and the fanatisism hadnt conpletly worn off. Barry
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  RABBIT PROOF FENCE --- TRUE STORY/ AUSSIE FILM

  by LDH in

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  i rented this last night and really loved it.. have any of you blokes and sheilas seen it, then, and what did you think?

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  A court case by two so called stolen generation aboriginals a few years ago proved that these two individuals would have been left on an ant nest to die and that there lives had been saved by the government policys of the day. The present government refuses to say sorry because of this reason and because it would open the floodgates for litigation for the so called stolen generation. The aboriginal people have different values to the white society and for them it is a huge problem to fit into the modern world . probably the aboriginal people have some of the best trackers in the world they are used by the police to solve crimes and are allways right.
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  Afgan Muslim to Christian Convert faces DEATH PENALTY !

  by Rabbit in

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  i had a cold chill and a shiver vibrate down my spine reading this article.. but, i just don't know why ?

  there are certain words i have taken the liberty to highlight below, each of them caused a {{{{{{shiver}}}}}}.. somebody help me out...what is that gives me this 'deja vu' feeling ?.

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060322/wl_nm/religion_afghan_dcback to story - helpafghanistan says court to decide fate of convert .

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  According to the Sunday Telegraph Afghan Christian Abdul Rahman is likely to be released soon.

  Condoleezza Rice has phoned the Afghan President to step up pressure to free Abdul.
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  Afgan Muslim to Christian Convert faces DEATH PENALTY !

  by Rabbit in

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  i had a cold chill and a shiver vibrate down my spine reading this article.. but, i just don't know why ?

  there are certain words i have taken the liberty to highlight below, each of them caused a {{{{{{shiver}}}}}}.. somebody help me out...what is that gives me this 'deja vu' feeling ?.

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060322/wl_nm/religion_afghan_dcback to story - helpafghanistan says court to decide fate of convert .

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  Our prime minister and treasurer have both gone on the offensive about Muslims who wwould like Sharia law in Australia. I didnt take much notice until Phillip Ruddock come out and said he had been approached by various Islamic groups wanting protection of their culture as they put it. It seems they would be happy to have Sharia law in a free country where they could make Australia ;in the image of there former hell they escaped from. The treasurer Peter Costelllo has suggested to these people or groups they may feel more at home in a place like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
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  What I learned at the KH on Sunday 3/19/2006

  by MinisterAmos in

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  the speaker told us that the end is almost here and the storm in australia is the proof that we are in the last days.

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  Did they also say that there was no loss of life.?
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  wishing all you Aussies best wishes due to Storm.

  by rekless in

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  hope none of you were affected by the hurricane.. if you were i hope not drastically.. dan

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  Gday Wambat,

  The Australian people gave 150 million but also the Governmant gave one billion to the Indonesians
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  wishing all you Aussies best wishes due to Storm.

  by rekless in

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  hope none of you were affected by the hurricane.. if you were i hope not drastically.. dan

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  The latest news on the cyclone is one billion damage to the economy the banana crop and sugar crop destroyed and the tourist industry decemated in that area. We stocked up on bananas today they are expected to double in price soon. We got some at woolys for $3 a kilo.

  The good news is that no loss of life. Amazing.
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  Religions that do not go to war.

  by jwfacts in

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  many jw's seem to believe they are the only pacifist religion that does not go to war.

  here is a list of others that i found on wikipedia.

  other religions that do not participate in war are the church of the brethren, mennonites and society of friends, amish, hutterites, and others in the anabaptist tradition, doukhobors, molokans, bruderhof communities, schwenkfelders, moravians many groups of brethren, and many groups within the pentecostal movement.

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  There is not one position on this among Adventists but three and are

  Conciencious objection to war which is the same as the JW position.

  Non Combatancy which is joining the forces as a medic or some other non combatant role.

  Thirdly to join the military in a full combatant role as justification for this the case for a just war is used.

  There are many Adventists right now risking there lives in Irak.

  Adventists such as Desmond Doss a non combatant made great contributions to the forces and received the highest awards for his efforts.

  Adventists also support those who join the forces in full combatancy roles and support the forces with there clergy.Admiral Black is cheif of clergy in the US Navy and is a Seventh Day Adventist.