Its strange teh WT is very much like the religion they criticise the most the Catholic Church. At the time of the reformation the protestants were thought of as liberals because they beleives they could never get to heaven by works and the Catholics said protestiam was a good religion for the dying but impossible religion if a person wanted to live the christian life.
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22Jesus said his load would be light, the Witnesses made that load very heavy
by free2beme ini always remember being told that the load jesus expected of his people was not something that should be a burden and basically if you think about the core to christianity, it is not.
basically, jesus said to love one another and to treat others how you would want to be treated and to respect the life you have.
i don't ever remember jesus saying, "have 5 meetings a week, two assemblies a year and one convention.
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Jesus said his load would be light, the Witnesses made that load very heavy
by free2beme ini always remember being told that the load jesus expected of his people was not something that should be a burden and basically if you think about the core to christianity, it is not.
basically, jesus said to love one another and to treat others how you would want to be treated and to respect the life you have.
i don't ever remember jesus saying, "have 5 meetings a week, two assemblies a year and one convention.
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barry
Its strange teh WT is very much like the religion they criticise the most the Catholic Church. At the time of the reformation the protestants were thought of as liberals because they beleives they could never get to heaven by works and the Catholics said protestiam was a good religion for the dying but impossible religion if a person wanted to live the christian life.
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TITHING approaches!
by hamsterbait inin the sep 1 witchtower, p25.
there is an illustration (i assume of an anonymous israelite) vowing "i shall without fail give the tenth of 'it' to you" , at the point in the study where we are told that ornary folks gathered outside the temple when incense was being offered up.
(he has already given the tenth of something - "it's" running down the end of that phallic looking thingie.
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barry
If the WT society wants to start tithing they should first encourage their members to get a good education and so get well paying jobs. tith on $10,000 is only $1,000 per year whereas tith on $100,000 is $10,000 a year also the person on $10,000 a year really cant afford to tith anyway. As they say you cant get blood out of a stone.
The SDAs tith and they also encourage higher education that seems to be a balanced approach.
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Boycotting Israel
by Crumpet ini see that quite a few are following the dreadful attacks in lebanon.
today i went swimming to cool off with mr c and we were discussing what ways we could make our disapproval and anger at israels actions felt, besides being human shields.
(mr c reckons i'm big enough to stop one missile, but would be pretty useless after that.
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barry
Hezbolla doesnt have a problem with voilence they use civilians to protect their missiles and when the missiles are destroyed along with the civilian population they use it as a publicity stunt. I know this because of Islamofasists here in Australia all have told me 'We dont have a problem with voilence.
So you people like to be manipulated do you? Israel has the right to defend itself and has the right to destroy the missiles even if they have women and children as human shields. Does Hezbolla care about civilians their rockets are to exclusively target civilians because they arent accurate.
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Lets go to the church but stand outside
by Wordly Andre ini am so sick of this!
i have a split family, some non-jw and some jw, and ever since i was a young kid, ive noticed this silly fear of entering a church, i remember i must have been about 9 years old when my uncle died and my family went to the funeral, but we stood outside, and even at that young age i remember it felt wrong, like we were disrespecting my dead uncle and his family.
like ive wrote on this board before, i told my parents when at 15 i didnt want to go to meetings anymore and was never baptized, when i was 18 my great uncle died and at the funeral i went into the church for mass, when it was over i walked outside all the rest of my family were outside waiting, they all gave me dirty looks like i was just caught with a prostitute.
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barry
When I met my first wife she had been studying for two years with the witnesses. I asked her to come to services at my church and to my amazement after the service i happened to put my arm around her and found she was shaking like a leaf out of fear.
Thats probable why Im still here at this site and its not only what the WT writes about weather or not its OK to go to a church but what is instilled into the mind by constant teaching about the churches and how evil they are weather you go there or not.
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my story
by jaberwalkie inthis is a difficult thing for me to do, i used to be a jehovahs witness 20 years service as a pioneer.. last thursday it was announced from the platform at my local kingdom hall that i was disfellowshiped.. it was a bit of a shock.
i still have a deep sence of anger at what happened to me and its so unfair.. it started 3 years ago when i began to feel ill and i missed a couple of meetings.
the elders were wonderful and came round and cheered me up.
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barry
Gday Jabbawalkie, It beats me how they can get away with that rubbish, maybe they are on a power trip but stick around many people have similar stories and can empathise with you.
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National Healthcare for the USA
by sammielee24 injust an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
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barry
ultimately the best system is the most efficient one [thats not the most efficient at extracting money out of hard working individuals] and usually private enterprise is the system is the most efficient and provides the standard of living to which we have all become accustom. The important thing is to recognise and be accepting where governments can be efficient to provide good outcomes. .
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National Healthcare for the USA
by sammielee24 injust an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
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barry
When Australia got its national health care I would have voted against it I inherantly shy against socialist policies by governments.
Now i would absolutely support it in Australia as Ive mentioned before we pay one and a half percent of our income and that pays for excellent health care for everyone. The sort of numbers I see on here for health insurance are absolute robbery.
When my wife went to hospital to give birth she got a privcate ward in a modern hospital, the best of care the first one being a ceasure the second natural. When checking out we signed a paper to say everything was payed by our one and a half percent yearly contribution. Mums also get 4 thousand per child to increase the birth rate. A problem in most western countries these days.
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The JW dress code.....yuck
by JH inthis morning i took a long walk and happened to walk near by a small christian church.
and i could see them come out of the building after their meeting.
they were all dressed differently, some in clean sunday clothes, some in clean jeans, but no one in a suit like the jw's do.
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barry
I thought the JW women were sexy just because they dressed different to everyone else. There is nothing more ineresting too a man than hiding some bits. If a women has a mini skirt and bad legs sometimes she can hid it in JW mode by not wearing short skirt and be attractive to a man.
In the 70s people allways used to wear good cloths to church but times have changed. Men looks on the outward appearance but God looks on the heart.
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10 reasons why we should embrace our muslim friends
by Pleasuredome ingod loves muslims!.
muslims are loved by god in the same way that he loves all people.
like all humans, muslims are created in the image of god (genesis 1:26-27).
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barry
If you are right about this Merry the Muslims have a lot of PR work to do in the future.
I would advise you to consider the implications of sharia law if you were living in an Islamic country especially if you arent a muslim.