i just wondered if anyone has been to a church since fading, or getting out?
and how did you feel when you went?
My first wife studied with the witnesses before we were married and when I invited her to my church she shook like a leaf. I couldnt understand this because I had been used to going to other churches all my life and I didnt have that type of behaviour.
So from my experiance i can understand what some witnesses must go through visiting another church.
noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
Gopher, you said one mans freedom fighter isanother mans terrorist,
While this statement is sometimes true with what we are dealing with Islamo fasist terrorism we are dealing with an enemy that swill not negotiate with in fact there is no way we could call a cease fire with Bin Laden he beleives this war will go on until the day of judgement. If we were all to become Muslims there still would be no let up in hostilities and bin laden would continue with war on muslims he considers to be apostate.
noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
Gopher,
i was camping this weekend with some friends and around the camp fire the subject came up, "what is something weird you like to eat?
" i thought it was a fun subject and we all had some laughs over our odd appetites.. some of mine .... i love bologna with american cheese and miracle whip (the only thing i will use miracle whip with).
i love the taste of straight pickle juice or hot pepper juice.
They had kangaroo at the supermarket a few months ago so I decided to try it. I was the only one who ate the kangaroo meat. It is a big export earner and is sold all over the world. Kangaroos are a big pest here in Australia there are allways dead ones on the side of the road that have been hit by cars.
does anyone know of any religions that are very similar to jehovahs witnesses?.
it tends to come up in discussions with them a lot, they like to think that they are the only ones that don't believe in hell, the trinity, that jesus died on a stake, that they won't go to heaven, or stuff like that.
i could probaby just prove them wrong, but that would take forever and it would be a lot easier to just say: "you're not as unique as you think...".
Gday Monophonic,
SDAs were Arian and Trinitarian about 1900 and then the official position became Trinitarian. As a result there is still a small sector of Adventists that are still Arian and beleive the same as the WT on this. The Adventists came from different churches as well as some small groups who didnt beleive in the trinity and these same roots effected the WT org.
SDAs dont restrict any holidays and as you rightly pointed out now have women as clergy
Similar to the WT Adventists beleive in soul sleep and use the historicist view of interpreting bible prophecy.
was talking to a mormon friend about the jw policy of shunning disfellowshipped persons.
she was pretty shocked to hear that jw totally ignore disfellowshipped ones, not even saying hello, even family members.
told her that you have to spend months attending their meetings to grovel your way back and the whole time no one talks to you, not a word.
Im an SDA and there is no disfellowshipping, excommunication or shunning. The most church leaders can do is ask you to leave if there is any problem. The thinking behind this is that people will decide themselves if they want to belong to the SDA church. There are differences in doctrine within the SDAs anyway so even though most beleive the trinity I could beleive as some do Arianism and still be a member. This makes dissfellowshipping unworkable anyway because who would you dissfellowship Arians or Trinitarians?
after dying a grisly death in an afghan cave, osama made his way to the pearly gates.
there, he was greeted by george washington.
"how dare you attack the nation i helped conceive!
Merry do you get 72 virgin men or do you still have the same old bloke you are married to? While youre husband gets the virgins.
I do recall Mohamad said that hell is full of women.
after dying a grisly death in an afghan cave, osama made his way to the pearly gates.
there, he was greeted by george washington.
"how dare you attack the nation i helped conceive!
You might upset Merry with that.
I just wonderl what would Merry get at the pearly gates or any muslim women get? I beleive they are second class citizens even in the after life.
what do you think?
They do and Im not an Apostate
whenever i hear the word jehovah i still feel warm and fuzzy.
he was the god that i spent hours talking to in prayer, petitioning, thanking, pleading with.
he was my father, the creator, the one who we would worship for eternity.. jesus on the other hand i never spoke or prayed to.
I once heard a minister talking about a backslider he visited. The girl said I love Jesus but I dont like God. Of course she was talking about the Judgemental God of the old testiment. The minister explained being trinitianian that Jesus was the visible likeness of the invisible God.
I think this is the problem with the WT Arian beleif they dont quite know where to put Jesus we could argue all day about the trinity but things are still not quite right and Jesus doesnt fit in.
