Posts by barry

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Being of the "anointed" doesn't mean doodly squat!

by Terry in

where do jehovah's witnesses get all their contrary ideas and doctrines?.

isn't it directly from heaven because they are "anointed" and have been selected as jehovah's channel of communication?.

hell no!.

barry

I come from an adventist background and most if not all events about Ellen White are fake. Ive never believed her as supernatural or haveing the 'gift of prophecy and I have had many arguements with ministers in the past. She had one vision where she saw the planets in our solar system described them and the number of moons they had. It so happened the planets had the exact number of moons they had at that time discovered but the information is currently outdated. Did God know how many moons around jupitor or did he only know the number of moons there because the telescopes on earth are not powerful enough?

Ellen white got all her information out of books that were currently available at that time.

The theological truth that did come out of adventist theology is premillienilism because many of the churches believed at that time in postmillienilism which has since been consigned to the scrapheap.

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Nephilim are they fair dinkum

by barry in

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my son just showed me large humanoid skeletons of about 20ft tall.

just google nephilim.. whats the jw take on the nephilim?

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barry

My son just showed me large humanoid skeletons of about 20ft tall. Just Google Nephilim.

Whats the JW take on the Nephilim?

Dr Desmond Ford a contemporary of Raymond Franz

by barry in

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most of you know raymond franz but there is a parallel contemporary dr desmond ford.

des writes on the book crisis of conscience..

'splendid!.....there were so many parallels between the author's experience and mine that i was continually amazed .

barry

Most of you know Raymond Franz but there is a parallel contemporary Dr Desmond ford.

Des writes on the book Crisis of conscience.

'Splendid!.....There were so many parallels between the author's experience and mine that I was continually amazed . It seems that all small religious groups, unless fortified by a true understanding of God's grace, fall into the same pitfalls and behave the same way.'

Dr Desmond Ford Former Seventh Day Adventist theologian and professor at Pacific Union College defrocked due to conscientious issues.

Des spoke at this church 6th Sept 2008 so he had already been an apostate for about 28 years when this was recorded at a university SDA church in America . SDAs love their apostates well the ones they agree with anyway.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW9yPT3MGXY&feature=endscreen

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Liberal v conservative churches

by barry in

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you can read the artical on the above link.. a short story about nancy a conservative christian who states to the minister she wont be attending his church again because the reasons being she doesn't like the drums.

also the people are too friendly to each other and to new people visiting conservative churches aren't like that.

according to 'nancy the truth is important as well as character perfection before jesus comes.. some of you might be amused, i was.

barry

gnat that looks like a roman catholic or orthodox group isnt that a statue of mary there on the right of the cross?

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The Greek Word Parousia! How should it be trasnslated?

by wannabe in

the greek word parousia!

how should it be translated?.

i say, that because it can be applied to presence; which the governing body who does have an ax to grind, would jump on; and apply it, as they have to the thirteen occurrences, where it appears in their new world translation bible.. as i said, it can be applied to their teaching that the christ was invisibly present in the year 1914, but according to the information i found, that application is incorrect.

barry

I would guess everyone would translate as comming before 1850 because only after this time presents was intergrated into the meaning.

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Liberal v conservative churches

by barry in

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you can read the artical on the above link.. a short story about nancy a conservative christian who states to the minister she wont be attending his church again because the reasons being she doesn't like the drums.

also the people are too friendly to each other and to new people visiting conservative churches aren't like that.

according to 'nancy the truth is important as well as character perfection before jesus comes.. some of you might be amused, i was.

barry

Gday jgnat, I just thought that link captured the feeling of conservative and was ammusing .

Of course liberals can be those who believe evolution, have women pastors and don't believe the bible is inspired at one extreme but not necessarily. Liberals may be just more open to the community and have a happy vibrant religious community that talks a lot about Jesus and has drums.

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Liberal v conservative churches

by barry in

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friends

you can read the artical on the above link.. a short story about nancy a conservative christian who states to the minister she wont be attending his church again because the reasons being she doesn't like the drums.

also the people are too friendly to each other and to new people visiting conservative churches aren't like that.

according to 'nancy the truth is important as well as character perfection before jesus comes.. some of you might be amused, i was.

barry

liberaladventist.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/happy-church.html

You can read the artical on the above link.

A short story about Nancy a conservative christian who states to the minister she wont be attending his church again because the reasons being she doesn't like the drums. Also the people are too friendly to each other and to new people visiting conservative churches aren't like that. According to 'Nancy the truth is important as well as character perfection before jesus comes.

Some of you might be amused, I was. Barry

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What are the qualifications to be a baptizer at the assemblies?

by Iamallcool in

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barry

Anyone can baptise ever an unbeliever as long its done in the name of the father son and holy spirit.

The only requirement necessary is to have life saving skills if the person being baptised starts to drown

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if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either

by biometrics in

for even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.

(2 thess.

how many witlesses actually take this scripture to heart and apply it in their lives.

barry

I was told by an ex jw that just before 1975 people were encouraged to go on the dole and preach full time.

The dole for a single person here is a pittance of about $250 + maybe $100 rent allowance per week but please note that a family of four can get close to $1000 per week with rent assistance and unlike some countries these benefits run for life or until that person gets a job.

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News - Neanderthal DNA 99.5% Like Ours

by Satanus in

just recently, some scientists managed to sequence neanderthal dna.

while this discovery is not totally explored at this point, the following data are quite solid.. using different techniques, two teams of scientists separately sequenced large chunks of dna extracted from the femur of a 38,000-year-old neanderthal specimen found in a cave [image] 26 years ago in croatia.

one team sequenced more than one million base pairs and the other 65,000 pairs of the genome.. .

barry

I saw a documentary about how the neanderthals may have died out. According to one theory tha Neanderthals were more muscular had shorter legs and had no waistline. they lived in forest areas. They hunted with heavy spears and crept up on the animal being hunted. The spear was not thrown but thrust into the animal at close quarters.

The forests were decreasing during an ice age and open plains were increasing.

The theory is that modern humans started to inhabit the open plain areas because they were more athletic and were using a light spear which was thrown. Usually an animal runs quite a distance especially when a lighter spear hits its intended targetso even after the hit modern humans may have to run quite a distance to take down there quarry. The Neanderthal was just not athletic enough for this new type of hunting.

Did they interbreed? No! They kept their penis in their genis