Here is a video of a traditional SDA comments about the SDA doctrine of the investigative judgement which is sort of like the 1914 JW doctrine. He shows a video of Desmond Ford a contempory of Ray Franz. Please note Desmond Ford is speaking in a SDA church 28 years after his sacking. I believe it is a university church. Des is an evangelical as you might think and he has a good theology in my opinion. Des is also regarded as an apostate by some SDAs
Posts by barry
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57Are Seventh-Day Adventists a better Church to belong to than being a JW
by jwfacts ina lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
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An asteroid is coming in 2036
by Still Totally ADD ina friend of mine who is a astronomer told me a asteroid will hit the earth near ca in 2036. it will make a close pass by earth in 2029 and if it goes through a certain point he called a donut hole it will come back and get us in 2036. i asked him if it is big enough to cause problems?
he laugh and said it is extinction asteroid.
he went on to say the russians are already working on a plan to destroy it before in makes it here or try and change the course of it.
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barry
The best way to sav our planet from this asteroid is to park a spacecraft right next to it and then use gravity to change its orbit. It is only necessary to change its orbit a miniscule amount to avoid colision with the earth.
Blowing it up may put the asteroid into the earths path and not have the desired effect
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Do you think US Dollar will collapse on July 1st?
by Iamallcool inif you do not know what i am talking about, google about it.
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barry
The dollar dropping is not a problem it makes exports more attractive to the rest of the world increases jobs and helps to restore any balance of payments problems
Here in Australia the government is trying its best to got our dollar to drop by reducing interest rates to no avail.
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Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts
by bohm inthe collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in west antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported monday.. the finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable.
the rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.. this is really happening, said thomas p. wagner, who runs nasas programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.
theres nothing to stop it now.
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barry
Ice in the antarctic has increased substantually so maybe that will offset the melting ice in the arctic.
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How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??
by jam init's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
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barry
About 20%of evangelical christians believe in annihilation and also two archhibishops of canterbury have entertained the idear.
Many churchman believe the bible is realy describing a separation of the wicked from God and that is just like torture.
Adventists believe in a hell of fire for the wicked but a fire that lasts for a time only as a punishment for the wicked.
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What is your favorite gospel music?
by Zoos inmy taste in music is pretty eclectic.
i was listening to some andrea bocelli this afternoon and found this on youtube.. .
oh my god!!!.
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Serious subject - How to cut your alcohol consumption?
by quellycatface in.
how can i cut down without going teetotal?
i love the taste of wine, i'm not fussed with other drinks but just need to rein in it a bit.. going wine-free tonight and tomorrow, as i'm out socially.. i also need to shift a few pounds.. thank you, everyone..
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barry
yes new hope and hapiness expensive wines might be the answer. I have a bottle of wine in the cupboard and it was nearly $600 but there is a ban on drinking it. I had the idear to make a collection and make some money because they do go up in value
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Netherlands Union Conference support gay members in defiance of world church
by barry ini'm not gay but i do support gay people against hard line christians that forget the principles our lord demonstrated when he lived among us.
jesus had compassion for the outcasts women and tax collectors outside of society of that day.
i find it hard to accept gay people haveing relationships and sexual relations but i find it even more devient of me not to show christian love and acceptance of these people.. i am encouraged by the response of the netherlands union conference of sdas and as you know the sdas are like a sister church to the jw religion and is just as conservative.. the world sda church has adopted guidlines for the response to alternative sexual practices.
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barry
Gday Quelly, Congratulations on your baptism and with it your vow to follow the Lord Jesus. Easter in the early church was a favorite time to be baptised
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Netherlands Union Conference support gay members in defiance of world church
by barry ini'm not gay but i do support gay people against hard line christians that forget the principles our lord demonstrated when he lived among us.
jesus had compassion for the outcasts women and tax collectors outside of society of that day.
i find it hard to accept gay people haveing relationships and sexual relations but i find it even more devient of me not to show christian love and acceptance of these people.. i am encouraged by the response of the netherlands union conference of sdas and as you know the sdas are like a sister church to the jw religion and is just as conservative.. the world sda church has adopted guidlines for the response to alternative sexual practices.
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barry
I'm not gay but I do support gay people against hard line christians that forget the principles our Lord demonstrated when he lived among us. Jesus had compassion for the outcasts women and tax collectors outside of society of that day. I find it hard to accept gay people haveing relationships and sexual relations but I find it even more devient of me not to show christian love and acceptance of these people.
I am encouraged by the response of the Netherlands Union conference of SDAs and as you know the SDAs are like a sister church to the JW religion and is just as conservative.
The world SDA church has adopted guidlines for the response to alternative sexual practices. On the 4th April 2014 that would deny practicing gay people from church membership. The general conference president Ted Wilson has said the recommendations are only guidlines not policy. That being said guidlines become policy and then become law.
In responce to this situation the Netherlands Union Conference has advised all churches in its union to fully commit themselves to ensuring that LGBTI individuals feel safe in the church. I addition NUC leadership says it would strongly advise against any steps to revoke the membership of LGBTI people given the unsafe environement this would create in churches .