Posts by Jez

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A little bit of news about the "Big News"

by AndersonsInfo in

i just learned about the release of the "big news" and was told that what i've been calling "big news" won't be released today or tomorrow but hopefully sometime this week.

if anyone is saying the 15th it is because we were told months ago that it would be mid-december when the big news would be released.

as soon as i know the day, you will know.

Jez

Please be assured I'm not playing with your emotions.

Personally, I don't believe "the Big News", until I see it....you can't play with my emotions unless I let you.

NOT waiting to exhale....Jez

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International Convention Scam ...

by Taylor S. in

my mom said recently that she had 'applied' to go to the international conventions.

today she reported that she'd been approved.

i asked how much it was gonna cost her.

So, she finds out that she needs to pay X amount for this international convention, yah? Now do they ask her to send the money directly to the WBTS and they will take care of all the details from their end of things, and then mail her the plane ticket, accomodation, and other details ?

Jez

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International Convention Scam ...

by Taylor S. in

my mom said recently that she had 'applied' to go to the international conventions.

today she reported that she'd been approved.

i asked how much it was gonna cost her.

Jez

LOL, it has turned into the same scenario as public verses private health care. Those that 'have' verses those that 'have not'. The private care provided by the society cost more, but is organic spiritual food because it is delivered in such a more special manner by more special people.

The rich spiritual blessings obtained at these international conventions are now truly, only for the rich.

Jez

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"Family Forever" cross-stich ... what do I do with it?

by kwintestal in

years ago my parents gave us a framed cross stich with our last name and "family forever" on it as the main part of the picture.. since then, my parents have shunned us completely.

i'm thinking of returning it to them in the mail with a letter saying something like, "i guess you didn't mean it when you gave this to us so there's no point in us having this.

" is that over the top?.

Jez

It is up to you what you do with it. If you DO want to keep it, hang it, take a picture of it and send the picture of it to your family with a letter. Tell them in the letter that you took that phrase seriously and thank them for initiating it. Let them know that you plan to fullfill the intent of that phrase within your own family. Tell them that they are welcome back into your life when they are ready to apologize and reconsider what 'unconditional love' or what 'emulating Jesus' really means. (turn it around onto THEM needing YOUR forgiveness). You could provide scriptures here about the prodigal son, how forgiveness is between you and God, how the scribes and the pharisees rebuked Jesus for eating with sinners, etc. In the meantime, tell them that plague in your house will continually serve as a reminder of what family forever truly means.

Jez

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THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

Jez

My husband said that maybe it is that they are affiliated with another church OR they are going to amalgamate with another church OR already have.

Wouldn't that be something....having fun mulling that one around.

Jez

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JWs & Trying to Ruin Others' Holidays (long vent)

by rebel8 in

well here i go with my annual holiday stress thanks to my jw relatives............if you are wondering why i'm on this forum after not being a jw myself for so long, there's your explanation.. i realize they have their beliefs against the holidays but it is soooooooo inappropriate to subvert others' participation in holiday celebrations, isn't it?

(rhetorical question there) i mean, if i did it to them they'd claim i was persecuting them!

i have decided i am going to tell them to stop persecuting me!

Jez

My ex tells my 10 year old that she is making Satan happy and God sad when she celebrates the holidays. He constantly belittles our beliefs, I finally sent him, (and cc'ed it to his lawyer, the family Justice Counseller, and the elders in his congregation) a letter that started with:

"Honest-hearted Christians respect different religious beliefs. You continually infringe on our religious freedom by entering our house via the phone and belittling them. Religious discrimination has no place in society, as you well know, your religion has fought for religious tolerance and to be free of persecution, and been granted that. So why do you find it so difficult to tolerate others right to choose and to make that choice free of bitter harrassement, threats, or intimidation when you yourself demand those very rights?"

Jez

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JUMPIN JESUS! HE'S HERE!

by Nate Merit in

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if this graphic isn't jumping, click here: www.jcnot4me.com .

and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Jez

Can someone explain what is funny about that? I actually enjoyed reading your other posts Nate, and respected your opinions, but this is just ignorant. I don't believe in much from a religious standpoint, but I certainly respect the people here that do, enough not to purposely make fun of something they hold sacred. Cheap thrill Nate, very cheap.

To all lurkers or current religious people: I do not think Jesus hopping around the computer sceen on a cross is funny and I doubt very many others here do either.

Jez

34

so what comes next........

by fleaman uk in

jw
friends

ive had a day off work today and have been reflecting on stuff like never before.. ive had the strong jw belief system from pretty much the word go.then in 1995 that all started to end with the change in generation.i couldnt believe what i was hearing!at the time i was an ms and reg pioneer and 100% in my beliefs.overtures were made to me about being an elder.. the doubts continued until about 3 years ago,i couldnt stands no more (in best popeye voice)and dropped out the religion with a bang!i had long relinquished the pioneering and the ms.. what came next?well for a year a completely hedonistic existance..boy,did i make up for lost time with the beer and the laydeez.i did it far away tho..still worried about the elders.then i became more blase..what right did those elders have over what i chose to do?

?i celebrated xmas..did birthdays,fell out spectacularly with parents,got a great gf,split up,got back together again..all in all a bit of a busy period!.

but now its hit me.. ive lost an entire belief system,one i adhered too before i saw the light.now im completely nihilistic,nearly 35 (half way thru 3 score years and 10)and am genuinely concerned about what the future holds!.

Jez

If the bible wasn't written by a bunch of power-hungry Catholics looking for a way to exercise control, I might care what the bible says.
-ithinkisee

May I add...power-hungry Catholic MEN....

Jez

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so what comes next........

by fleaman uk in

jw
friends

ive had a day off work today and have been reflecting on stuff like never before.. ive had the strong jw belief system from pretty much the word go.then in 1995 that all started to end with the change in generation.i couldnt believe what i was hearing!at the time i was an ms and reg pioneer and 100% in my beliefs.overtures were made to me about being an elder.. the doubts continued until about 3 years ago,i couldnt stands no more (in best popeye voice)and dropped out the religion with a bang!i had long relinquished the pioneering and the ms.. what came next?well for a year a completely hedonistic existance..boy,did i make up for lost time with the beer and the laydeez.i did it far away tho..still worried about the elders.then i became more blase..what right did those elders have over what i chose to do?

?i celebrated xmas..did birthdays,fell out spectacularly with parents,got a great gf,split up,got back together again..all in all a bit of a busy period!.

but now its hit me.. ive lost an entire belief system,one i adhered too before i saw the light.now im completely nihilistic,nearly 35 (half way thru 3 score years and 10)and am genuinely concerned about what the future holds!.

Jez

DB said :

it would be a leap of stupidity for me personally to be ever involved in another religious group and to blindly accept all or any of which they spoonfeed

Looking back, it is my naivity that really bothers me. How could I have not questioned, or researched more? How could I have blindly followed everything they said? How could I listen to them when they told me that it was in my sisters best interest that I shun her? I would love to have a religion and REALLY dive into something, but I don't and never can trust that I am not naturally gullible.

I see myself now as having the capacity for gulliblity and therefore fiercely protect my freedom of thought, it is like I am so afraid still that I could lose it.

Jez

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Fourth and Final Chemo Treatment Coming Up

by simplesally in

jw
friends

well, its coming up on monday, my last chemo treatment!!

i cannot believe i have had 3 treatments already.

after the chemo, i will be treated with herceptin and taxol for 12 weeks, weekly infusions.

Jez

Thinking of you.....sounds like you are staying strong. Hugs from Jez