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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

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  only men can be elders.

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  Right from the go, the bible has been biased against women, Eve is nicely set up to be the one that led Adam astray. Right from the beginning, men tainted the bible's view on women.

  Hell, MEN wrote the bible. What kind of a perspective would a women have put on it?

  After Jesus died, he showed himself to a woman first. The men were stunned and disbelieving that a woman would be chosen by Jesus to be the first to see him.

  The bible and Jesus' actual teachings/life contradict each other. What does that tell you?
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

  only men can give talks.

  only men can be elders.

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  Jez

  Wow, DaCheech...those are excellent examples...wow again...
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

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  Jez

  Thanks to Scully who posted this Question from the readers about holidays, 2001 in another post. Here is another example of sexism! Look at the wording and the fact that never is the option to just say NO given. Hubands can basically get away with anything if they choose to based on that scripture in Col...wait a minute...who wrote that book...was it PAUL????

  (Similarly, around holiday times an unbelieving husband might request or demandthat his Christian wife do something she would like to avoid. Consider some
  examples: He tells her to cook a certain food on the day he and others will
  celebrate a holiday. Or he demands that the family (including the wife) visit
  his relatives on that day for a meal or simply as a social call. Or even prior
  to the holiday, he might say that while his wife is out shopping, she must make
  some purchases for him - foods unique to the holiday, items to use as presents,
  or wrapping paper and cards to use with his gifts.
  
  Again, the Christian wife ought to be determined not to share in false
  religious acts, but what about such requests? He is the family head, and God's
  Word says: "You wives, continue in subjection to your husbands, as it is
  becoming in the Lord." (Colossians 3:18) In these cases, can she show wifely
  subjection while being loyal to God? She must decide how to balance obedience
  to her husband with her overriding obedience to Jehovah.)
  
  At other times, her husband may ask her to cook a certain food, whether it is
  because it is his favorite or because he is used to having that meal in a
  particular season. She will desire to show love for him and recognition of his
  headship. Could she do so even if he made the request on the occasion of a
  holiday? Some Christian wives might be able to do so with a good conscience,
  simply considering it as a normal task of preparing the daily meal. Certainly
  no loyal Christian would attach any holiday significance to it, even if her
  husband did. Similarly, he might require her to be with him when he visits his
  relatives at various times each month or year. Could she do so even if it was
  the day of a holiday? Or would she normally be willing to purchase things at
  his request, without judging what he intends to do with the items she buys
  for him while doing her shopping?
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

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  Jez

  AND ANOTHER THING......

  My JW mother's husband is an overseer in his congregation. Get this, he says to her all the time that it is biblical that she does not question his headship, does not make decisions on her own and serves him. He shows her from the bible all the time that this is true. My mother was not allowed to pick out new tile for her kitchen on her own. She is not allowed to buy a new stove even though the one she has is falling apart, because HE SAYS SO. He went and spend $1000 on paving their driveway (rental place) without even letting her know, then says, it is none of her business. He gives her an allowance. He tells her what she is allowed and not allowed to buy for groceries. It goes on....

  She balks in little ways but to do so overtly would cause such a fight that it is not worth it to her. THIS OVERSEER is on JUDICIAL committees that are dealing with women's issues!!!!!!! It is bad enough having only men trying to counsel you about things that only another women would understand, let alone this pig. Oh...it's bad in there....and sometimes worse for the older sisters whose husbands are old school in their views towards women and now have not only a licence to be so, but a pat on the back.
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

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  only men can be elders.

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  Jez

  The apostle Paul had issues...one was with women. In 1 Cor, can't remember scripture but not hard to find...he states that women should be quiet in the congregation and if they have a question, they must go through their husbands, their husbands acting as even spokesperson for the wife. Paul does not say 'quiet in the sense of giving talks, or acting as elder, he does not quantify that statement. So why don't Jw's take that statement literally and state a law that women should be QUIET, period, while in the congregation. No, they manipulate his words to their own liking, watering it down a bit, just to appease the masses. This has always bugged me for 3 reasons:

  A) The entire bible itself is sexist and does not allow for positive societal changes, ie. status of women

  B) Paul wrote many things that from his own admission, "in my opinion," BUT many JW's 'principles' are based on Pauls' writings. Isn't he the prick that wrote about 'not even eating with such a man?' that ONE principle is the bases for the entire disfellowhipping practice. (Notable and off topic, is how Jesus went out of his way to be with ppl that society had 'marked)

  C) The 'QUIET' principle that Paul wrote about....a classic example of how JW's accept whatever principles or laws etc in the bible that suit their purpose and disregard others that do not.
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

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  Jez

  Orbi:

  Personal experience....if you are truly interested, go to freeminds.org and under the women's section read, "Pretending". That's my story.
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

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  Jez

  No congregational decision making allowed by women

  At any gathering/dinner that I was at, women cooked, cleaned up and then served coffee and dessert while the men sat around waiting

  Can't do the sound system
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  Driving On The Other Side Of The Road.

  by Englishman in

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  i have.. easy, yeah?.

  or really tricky, maybe even terrifing?.

  englishman.

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  My father and mother in law are here from England for 6 weeks. I gave them my brandnew 2004 van to drive around. They have been gone for 1 week now. Now...trying to give a 65 year old Brit, driving lessons, is something I hope to soon fade from my memory. No idea about 4-way intersections, felt like he should just 'jump ahead' of everyone and scream into the intersection and out again as fast as possible. THEN he has this weird thing where he HUGS the center line. The left 2 tires are practically right on the center line. I yell at him to get over or he is going to get hit, he says, "I am." Doesn't listen. I think he just mentally can't adjust to some things.

  He is too "Britainized" for our calm way over here.

  I haven't driven over there yet, my English hubby does all that, but I plan on it next year just to prove that I can.
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  No Thanksgiving, Christmas, or Easter ! (Help) ?

  by hubert in

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  well, the wife and i got the word last night while talking with our j.w.

  bible study daughter.

  she won't be coming over for the annual meal(s) on thanksgiving, christmas, easter, and whatever else she can think of that are holidays.

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  Jez

  To call God by his first name is disrespectful and is tantamount to putting yourself on the same level as him. Why do students call their teachers only by their last name? Why do we call our bosses Mr or Mrs? Children say, 'Mom or Dad' out of respect for the position that they hold. If my child called me by my given name, I would view it as a sign of disrespect. In any formal situation (many known examples) where there is a power shift, the lower party never calls the party in power by their first name. Why the hell do JW's think that they have the right to call the 'almighty, epitomy of power' God, by his NAME? I now find it very wrong to call him Jehovah, his title should suffice, as it is a sign of respect.

  JW's encourage the use of his name so heavily because it serves as a constant reminder that THEY are JEHOVAH's WITNESSES, the only true organization.
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  Sexism in the borg....sexist pigs the lot

  by Jez in

  1. jw
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  let's talk about how sexist the borg is:.

  only men can give talks.

  only men can be elders.

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  Jez

  to the Awake article on chess.......