Can you please just tell us what is so hair raising about it?
Jez
Posts by Jez
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11UK WATCHTOWER FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS 2003
by diamondblue1974 infurther to another thread which got my interest i have obtained the watchtower & bible tract society of great britains 2003 accounts in a pdf file...if anyone wants a look...either pm me or post and il send you a copy via email.
the results are quite hair raising!?
db
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CANADIAN WTBS CHANGES it's name
by Jez inletter read tonight.
said that the "watchtower bible and tract society of canada" will change its letterheads and signature to "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses".
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Jez
Letter read tonight. Said that the "Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Canada" will change its letterheads and signature to "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses"
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"I can't stop thinking about Jehovah's Witnesses!"
by logansrun ini've heard this said by a few ex-witnesses in my three years away from the organization, and have sometimes said it myself.
sometimes it is said in the context of, "i'd like to move on, but i just can't stop thinking about them.
could it not be that one of the reasons ex-jws "can't stop thinking about" the organization -- and their past involvement with it -- is that they daily log onto this site, read about the society and talk about them?
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Jez
I have enjoyed reading this thread very much and I think it was a great thread topic. I don't know how I feel about staying, I just know that I am not ready to leave or if I ever will be BUT:
I was abused for 14 years. What good would it do me to go over and over aspects of it on a daily basis? There would hopefully come a point where I said, ok enough, I need to look more forward than I do backwards. It would tear me up to have to discuss the abuse, my feelings surrounding it, how I was treated, where he hit me, how often, who knew about it, why did I not tell people earlier, why I think he did it, why i think I stayed, etc etc...the topics surrounding it would be endless.
Do you know what I mean? I do understand the need for a balance between 'healing' and 'moving forward'.
Jez
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Slow Fade Progresses
by TheListener ini wanted to give everyone an update on the current state of my slow fade.
i live in an environment that is hostile to the slow fade so i usually speak in general terms.
this time i plan to give just a little bit more information so i can heal myself as i go through this process.. i have doubted for several years (about 3).
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Jez
My wife hasn't talked to me since Sunday night, and I'm not sure what the next few days will bring.
So sorry! Why won't she talk to you? Hence my reasoning that very few dubs actually know what love is or how to show it. They have been taught JWLOVE for far too long, and it is twisted, it is a perversion of the word.
The Listener: The lifting of a huge burden off of you is evident even through your words. It is not easy realizing that our heads were in a fog for most of our life. Someone once said on this site that it is like alcoholic getting sober. Thank you for having the courage to investigate whatever it was that made you see 'the truth', for having the moral fibre to admit that the JWs are wrong, thank you for not turning a blind eye like so many do, thank you for leaving. You are an inspiration and you provide hope that there were/are/always will be others like you. This life is all we have, now, then who can judge or blame you for wanting family in it??
It will get to the point where you will not care what they think of you. We have been conditioned to care what others think, not to stumble, preach to others, save save save...your own wants, needs, desires are put on the back burner and you are taught to focus on appearances. The more you associate with non-cult members, the more you will change and start to see the finer intricaties of what has been done to us. Recognizing it is the first step. We have all been taught to be people-pleasers. You'll get over it and be a better man for it. Take your time, be patient with yourself, the answers will come.
Jez
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14 YEAR OLD JW GIRL NEEDS BLOOD - CAN YOU HELP
by SHUNNED FATHER ina 14 year old jw girl in vernon, british columbia, canada needs a blood transfusion.
the watchtower society lawyers.
both parents are jw.
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Jez
It was on the Vancouver news this morning. She has been made a ward of the province as well. Yipeeee!
What a fine 'witness' to all the people in BC that watch the news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since this is the first case in BC like this, what a great precedent that has been set.
Why did not their God "Jehovah" support this 14 yr olds right to choose? Why was he silent on this? The JWs have prided themselves on having 'angels' in the courts with them..where were they? Why didn't he help if it is so right? What do they say to themselves now about where was their God? If they had won, you can be sure they would have said, "Oh Jehovah was with us and LOOK he saves his people from the evil worldly influences EVEN in court....blah" They would have milked it for all it was worth, but now that they have lost, what do they tell themselves?
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BREAKING NEWS
by the_classicist inthe 14 year old jw girl from vernon, bc, has just lost her court case in the bc supreme court in vancouver to not have blood transfutions.
more info.
to come.
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Jez
HA! The "family's lawyer"....more like the WTBS's special lawyer. He does not represent the interests of the family, he represents the interests of the WTBS!!!
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BREAKING NEWS
by the_classicist inthe 14 year old jw girl from vernon, bc, has just lost her court case in the bc supreme court in vancouver to not have blood transfutions.
more info.
to come.
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WOW, AWESOME. I am SOOO happy!!!!!
Jez
I will watch the news in the morn and see what they say about it.
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14 YEAR OLD JW GIRL NEEDS BLOOD - CAN YOU HELP
by SHUNNED FATHER ina 14 year old jw girl in vernon, british columbia, canada needs a blood transfusion.
the watchtower society lawyers.
both parents are jw.
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Jez
what troubles me is the question of what constitutes truly informed consent.
So true Alleymom. There is on doubt hordes of JW elders, blood committee members all around her, making sure that she makes the "right" decision.
I know her first name, moderator: can I post it? Apparently the JWs in Vernon are raising $ for the family to find alternative medical help.
I think of myself at 14 and there is no way I would have wanted the responsibilty to make a life or death decision. I would not have known what I know now, I would not have had the foresight and wisdom that age brings to make that kind of decision. Life is so precious and young ppl are well known for taking it for granted, or thinking they are invincible. If an adult, with more LIFE experience, decides to lessen their chance for survival, so be it. But this girl cannot possibly know the magnitude of what she is risking, her age alone prevents it.
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My Mom is so upset she is skipping meetings!
by Quotes ini just got off the phone with my mom.
my mom has been a jw since converting in her teens or early 20s; she is now at the age of "senior discount".
a lifetime in the religion, by choice.
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Jez
What a wonderful conversation. My humble advice, go real easy on her now for a few weeks, maybe actually changing the topic of conversation if it gets around to JW-life. It seems to me like they can only take so much, like a baby being fed solids, and then the gag reflex kicks in and they panic. Seems like the JWs are doing a fine job of fanning her doubts, on their own, anyways.
thanks for sharing that, it provides hope. Jez
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*Tears*
by Krystal ini am 20 years old and i left the organization when i was 17. there are of course many gorey details which i will not get into right now... but i just wanted to say how happy i am to have found this fourm.
as many of you remember, we were always instructed not to read anything about jehovah's witnesses that wasn't written by the organization.
well, that instruction stuck, and this is the first time i three years that i have dared to even look.. needless to say, i found some very disturbing information.
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Jez
No, it is not easy to leave, but the chance to open up, explore and challenge everything that you thought "the truth" was is worth everything. You know what they say, Nothing worthwhile ever comes easy. Hang in there, and enjoy the real gift of life.
Jez