Excellent question.
I will write more later. Hope we get lots of
feedback on your pertinent inquiry.
battman
i cant say i sought the jws out.
i had little choice , as my parents did the seeking, i hold them harmless, they did not investigate it beyond the wtbts pubs.. i did however at a point go it on my own, did the water dipping ore 1985 , so i feel, no allegiance to a group i vowed nothing to.. there was a point maybe 2 or 3 months when i felt i had a realtionship with god during my stint with the jws.
unfortuanately for me i lumped , god and them together and dismissed both together for a long time.. my question though to all here is this.
Excellent question.
I will write more later. Hope we get lots of
feedback on your pertinent inquiry.
battman
i was reading about how an internet company wants to transmit timothy mcveigh's execution over the internet on a pay-per-view basis.. it disturbed me that society appears to be drifting backwards in this regard, that not only are there people who want to make money from this situation, there are also many people apparently willing to view it for entertainment purposes.. of course, nothing would pack in the historical crowds like a public execution.
but the gradual enlightenment of society made public executions a footnote of history, and the death penalty appeared to be following.. and that made me consider what my attitude is to the death penalty itself.. in wt land the death penalty is considered to be "divine justice".
the bible brims to the covers with accounts of executions using the most excrutiating methods, such as stoning.
Hi,
My mind changed from "hang 'em high"
to "lock 'em up forever without the
slightest hope for parole" after reading
John Gresham's "the chamber".
not too "theo" minded, but that is my "trooth".
the "hang 'em" era was when i was a believer
in wt dogma.
"it is not to be presumed that the prince of darkness will suffer the binding influences of the new prince, which are now at work to fetter his power without a struggle.
his rage will spend its force in distressing mankind in various ways, for he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
" 1884wtwr 03 01 07. well, that is as it may be, but we can now say without a doubt that this "short time" which the watchtower taught back in 1884 was nearly over is still 117 years later - taught by the watchtower to be in progress... "all know something of the failure of brother miller's expectations.
hearing is believing and
reading it in print is "without a doubt" the trooth.
tanks focus for a real deep belly laff.
battman,
was of the "without a doubt" class now
of the "truely without a doubt class".
to see all those usages strung together is priceless!!!!
god tested abraham by telling him to sacrafice his son issac.
since god is omniscient (knows all, knows the end from the beginning) he already knew abraham would go through with it unless god stopped him.
what was the purpose of this test?.
For a really fun evening go to the "insight" books
and look up foreknowledge and foreordination.
Please be sure you are sitting down and somewhat
sober. Actually a few pints might help.
If you have any "insights" pleaese keep them to your
selves. This entire area makes me dizzy, sick and
want to lay down.
battman
of the "wot me worry class?"
god tested abraham by telling him to sacrafice his son issac.
since god is omniscient (knows all, knows the end from the beginning) he already knew abraham would go through with it unless god stopped him.
what was the purpose of this test?.
english,
i just reread your post again, deja vue all over.
when you said "more" did you mean "any"?
or were you saying that it would be "more"
than you are presently receiving.
could, or would, you define "more". i am not sure
i even understand "any" at this point. LOLOLOLOL
battman
of the underutilized class
god tested abraham by telling him to sacrafice his son issac.
since god is omniscient (knows all, knows the end from the beginning) he already knew abraham would go through with it unless god stopped him.
what was the purpose of this test?.
hi english,
welcome back from holiday!!!
good to see your "dry" wit at work.
do you think it will be a long time until
you are a "nice guy" again? not being
"omni" anything i cant tell for sure.
battman
not of the onmi class
my word it does.. when i started studying with the witlesses all of my family and inlaws deserted me for following a stupit cult.
my wife divorced me and my children won't talk to me.. that's ok because according to jdubs that proves it's the truth.. as i progressed in "the truth(tm)" all my friends started to abandon me because i was always going to those booring meetings.. when i found someone i liked in "the truth" and started associating with her, some of my witness friends tried to break up the friendship.. ie break up another family before it even starts.. after i married her without getting the elder permission, some of my jdub friends tried to df me, to show how much they loved me.. when they failed to df me some of my witless friends decided to shun me anyway even though the elders pronounced us no guilty.. i should have sued the bastards for slander.
today i'd just give him (the instigator) a good hiding.
IMVHO,
i think that there will be very many more
here in the times ahead.
battman
of the "real soon now" class
my word it does.. when i started studying with the witlesses all of my family and inlaws deserted me for following a stupit cult.
my wife divorced me and my children won't talk to me.. that's ok because according to jdubs that proves it's the truth.. as i progressed in "the truth(tm)" all my friends started to abandon me because i was always going to those booring meetings.. when i found someone i liked in "the truth" and started associating with her, some of my witness friends tried to break up the friendship.. ie break up another family before it even starts.. after i married her without getting the elder permission, some of my jdub friends tried to df me, to show how much they loved me.. when they failed to df me some of my witless friends decided to shun me anyway even though the elders pronounced us no guilty.. i should have sued the bastards for slander.
today i'd just give him (the instigator) a good hiding.
hi hes,
thanks for sharing your story. I am very new
here and have spent most of my time on the
main forum. Today i visited the depression
forum for the first time. A little difficult at
first and a lot to digest. However, everyone
there is very concerned and their posts are very
helpful, empathic and enlighting. Sweet, sweet
genuine caring friends.
i wish you a safe and successful trip.
battman
of the "bad association class" no wonder no one
calls me, even after 25 years of being "OK". lol
the goal of holistic psychology in treating this disorder is to completely heal the body.
this healing process will reduce the need for medication.
once medication has reduced the amount of manic depressive symptoms, healing techniques can be applied to prevent increases in medications and start the healing process.
I just read your post and will check it out.
Starting to reach limit of meds and could
usen a fresh approach.
battman
'it doesn't matter what you choose, what matters is the energy with which you choose it.'.
4/19/2001
i appreciate the thought.
tahnks,
battman