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  What will it take to really change the WT Society?

  by Mindchild in

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  for many ex-jehovahs witnesses there is a disconnection between what we wish we could be doing in terms of making pronounced change in the ideological structure of the watch tower society or the dissolution of it, and what we actually find ourselves doing.

  at some level we sense there are incredible potentials just waiting to be realized in the collective struggle to bring down the tower not just because it is fundamentally wrong and harmful to millions of lives but also for the changes it will make in our lives.

  over the years though, i think a lot of us kind of feel that we are stumbling around in the dark trying one thing or another without anything serving as catalyst that starts an energetic chain reaction.. in a way, it reminds me of a phenomenon i learned back in my college days about termites.

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  battman

  IMHO I think the change is already happening. The
  discovery and publishing of the UN incident and the
  very quick response of the GB is evidence of this.

  Hopefully more will be divulged but the GB has to be
  pissing in there pants about what goes on here and
  the huge effect on everything they say, write and try
  to predict. They are the ones that are under the micro-
  scope both for everything they had ever said and, for
  sure, every word they ever write in the future.

  Quite a shocking prospect for them knowing that we
  know what we do, are able to research to the final dot
  and then with the power of world wide, immediate, unrestricted,
  and FREE publishing empire (net) that we all contribute to,
  control and advertise, advertise, advertise on

  The tables have turned and it will take time but will continue
  at an ever increasing pace until the WTS is totally generic,
  bland and very mainstream. ie: dead!!!.
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  usa 2001 stats

  by jeffory in

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  avg.

  pubs in 2001 service year[ usa] 945,689 compared to 945,000 avg.

  in 2000.. total baptized in 2001 service year 28,239 compared to the 28,475 in 2000.

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  battman

  Thanks for the stats. Wonder what the activity
  has been like in the last 7 weeks.

  battman
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  MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

  by hawkaw in

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  as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

  and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

  after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

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  battman

  Back to the top.
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  Database of all Kingdom Halls?

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  is there a database or mailing list of all kingdom halls in the us?.

  if you also had po names that would be even better.... slipnslidemaster:"it is always the best policy to tell the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar.".

  - jerome k. jerome

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  battman

  I would be glad to submit the street address
  of those in Greater Fort lauderdale, FL
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  What really gets me going

  by ballistic in

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  i have gone through various emotions including anger at the wtbts for all that i went through while growing up only to be disfellowshipped at 22.. my net result is a dead father due to the blood issue and a split family and, of course, years of wasted time.. i would like to say, however, that i am not angry with all witnesses and i am not a conspiracist who believes the leaders have a hidden agenda.. i believe that informed persons should be able to join the witnesses if they believe it is right for them.. what i hate though is the fact that thousands of children, like i was, are still indoctrinated from birth.

  they are told "we don't baptise babies because they are too young to choose it for themselves.

  " but in reality, what choice are you really giving a child who by the age of 13 would have experienced: 3380 hours of meetings, 832 hours of larger assemblies, possibly 1560 hours of field service, at least 2028 hours of personal study (watchtower, book study and personal study) and more importantly, what choice does a child have who is told they have an open mind but who is never allowed examine religions or persons with opposing views?.

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  Ballistic said

  <But in reality, what choice are you really giving a child
  who by the age of 13 would have experienced: 3380 hours
  of meetings, 832 hours of larger assemblies, possibly 1560
  hours of field service, at least 2028 hours of personal study
  (watchtower, book study and personal study) and more
  importantly, what choice does a child have who is told they
  have an open mind but who is never allowed examine religions
  or persons with opposing views?>

  This must be the reason that Jesus did not get baptized until
  he was 30 years old!! He did not have today's newest light
  from God's one and only FDS and GB. hahahahahahahahah

  battman
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

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  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  battman

  A bump back to the top for this significant
  thread

  battman
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  Hi! Anyone posting from the South FL area?

  by Cotton Tail in

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  i am a disassociated jw living in south florida looking for support in my area.

  does anyone have any information?

  the recent events have brought back many of the nightmarish doctrines drilled into my head as a young child and i am having difficulty working through them on my own.

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  battman

  Hello from South Florida
  Hi my name is dave and i live in
  plantation and would love to
  correspond with fellow board
  members.

  Dave
  [email protected]
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  MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

  and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

  after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

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  battman

  Thanks to all for a yeoman's job.

  I am mailing copies of the UN letter
  to many "fine" brothers. hahahaha

  battman
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  Jehovah Cancels New System Because of UN Stuff

  by ISP in

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  reuters.... in a surprise development today, jehovah, the god of the christian fundamentalist sect 'jehovah's witnesses' made a statement about the recent controversy regarding the watchtower bible and tract society(wts) and its ngo status.

  the 'wts' has now dissassociated itself from its previous ngo connection but had held such a position for the past 9 years or so.

  'i've had enough' said the diety, 'i just don't know what i am supposed to do with these people.

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  battman

  <p.s. what is Reuters for those of us on the other side of the pond?>

  I believe that they are a news service bureau much like AP the
  Associated Press.

  IPS - you are way toooooo funny, thanks for the laugh

  battman
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  JW's - Cover story on Time magazine!!!!

  by battman in

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  anyone up for competitive sports??

  this weeks, sept 3,.

  2001 time magazine sports the williams sisters on the.

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  battman

  Hi Dan,
  you are right about the "slack" factor which seems to go
  along with the WT wanting to grow up stay way out of the
  limelight. I mean what type of publisity (negative) would they
  garner if they took on the very popular "W sisters" and they
  are rather outspoken to say the least.

  still feel like puking!!!!