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  active and happy jw

  by scumgrief in

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  i am an active jw and was raised as one.

  i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.

  i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).

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  battman

  hi again scummer,
  < I'll do my best to defend my beliefs, but we both know
  that eventually it will just end up in a stalemate.>

  Yikes, what is the point being here then if the matter is
  pre judged? BTW you just gave me an area we can talk
  about. I am totally lost when it comes to the concept of
  fore-ordination and fore-knowledge. Have read the info in
  the Aid to Bible Understanding and Insight books and more
  confused than when I started.

  Also I fought the JW religion for 6 years before deciding
  to be baptised. Then I was in for 25 years and now very
  inactive so IMHO I hope that I can be open to new ideas,
  fresh viewpoints based on an organized logic. After all
  is not Jah a God of Organization and logic? Looking
  forward to your response.

  Batty Battman
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  Mispronunciations at the meetings

  by TR in

  1. jw
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  moxy raised a point in the "exaggeration" thread that aggravated me at the meetings.

  mispronunciations.

  moxy mentioned the word 'hyperbole' as frequently being mispronounced.. another one that bugged me was 'epitome'.

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  battman

  another would be "i doe later" instead of "i doll a ter"
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  I've Had It - I Just Can't Do it Anymore

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it seems we're back to the same "you're a troll; you're not a troll" thing.

  it seems that my posts make too many of you "uncomfortable," you have an "intuition," you "can't put your finger on it," whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  i thought this was a place where people can post and be heard.

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  battman

  hiya troubled,

  hang in there.

  my e-mail address is " [email protected]"
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  To Battman, RE: Door to Door stuff

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi battman,.

  "the original greek that was written says that paul taught.

  them in their "houses of worship" not house to house and.

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  battman

  Hi Troubled, I am back.

  I do not have my notes with me today at work
  so I will be brief and basic for now.

  Basically there are two different koine Greek
  words for "house".

  The first is translated as a personal home such as
  "my home/house", "your home/house" or "his home/
  house".

  The second is translated as a "spirtual" house or
  house of "worship". This is the word that Paul uses
  when he desribes what his activities had been, not what
  he was urging the R&F to do. There is also other info
  that is consistent with this view. Paul taught them in
  the Temple and their "houses of worship" not at their
  personal homes.

  The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson, now owned
  and reprinted by the WT will show the different words
  and their usage as will Kingdom Interlinear.

  The E.D. is available at your congregation on a "donation
  basis" but I would not let anyone know how seriously you
  want to study this as you will likely become under suspicion.
  Also you can use the Complete Concordance to see every
  occurance of the words home, house, houses and even
  house to house.

  I do not remember the occurance, without looking at my notes,
  but in a chapter before Acts20:20 the term "house to house" is
  correctly translated when admonishing ones NOT to go house to
  house yet the WT makes the leap to "house to house" at Acts
  20:20. HHmmmmm?

  Let me know if I have made this clear as mud.

  Battman

  "an informed witness is an x-jw."
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  Mispronunciations at the meetings

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  moxy raised a point in the "exaggeration" thread that aggravated me at the meetings.

  mispronunciations.

  moxy mentioned the word 'hyperbole' as frequently being mispronounced.. another one that bugged me was 'epitome'.

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  battman

  One elduh, from New Yooork, would always
  say "Jehovaher".
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  Mispronunciations at the meetings

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  moxy raised a point in the "exaggeration" thread that aggravated me at the meetings.

  mispronunciations.

  moxy mentioned the word 'hyperbole' as frequently being mispronounced.. another one that bugged me was 'epitome'.

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  battman

  i hated it when the WT conductor would
  "ax" a question. hhahahaha
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  Mispronunciations at the meetings

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  moxy raised a point in the "exaggeration" thread that aggravated me at the meetings.

  mispronunciations.

  moxy mentioned the word 'hyperbole' as frequently being mispronounced.. another one that bugged me was 'epitome'.

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  battman

  how 'bout "stripure" instead of "scripture"
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  To Battman, RE: Door to Door stuff

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi battman,.

  "the original greek that was written says that paul taught.

  them in their "houses of worship" not house to house and.

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  battman

  Neon,
  thanks for that '74 flash of lite. Do you know
  the exact issue.

  Troubled,
  very busy today at work but will respond later
  with more info.

  battman
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  To Battman, RE: Door to Door stuff

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi battman,.

  "the original greek that was written says that paul taught.

  them in their "houses of worship" not house to house and.

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  battman

  Hiya troubled,
  Thanks for your inquiry. I have written quite
  extensively before on this but not sure if I
  can find that thread. Will be glad to redo
  this information, maybe later today, as this
  was very insightful to me and I am sure you
  will appreciate it also.

  "an informed witness is an ex-witness"

  battman
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  active and happy jw

  by scumgrief in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an active jw and was raised as one.

  i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.

  i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).

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  battman

  Hi Scummer,
  I will try to take a deep breath and chill out some,
  thanks for that thought in your response to my rant
  about "door to door" interpretation. However,

  You said that your use of this phrase was just a
  figure of speech. maybe so, but where does the
  "fuzzy (math) language" stop and the "truth" begin?

  You, as current spokesman/defender of the WT
  doctrine can't have it both ways and then try to
  capture that moral, legal, intellectually honest
  hugh ground with "fuzz", parsed words and kind
  phrases.

  Let's cut to the chase. I, as many here have asked
  for your proof of your (WT's) beliefs. As one earlier
  poster said "test". A test would entail some postion
  then proving it's validity. Just as dubs harshly cast
  aspersions on those "householders" and "worldly"
  ones who are unable to make a coherent case for
  their believes other than "i believe therefore its true"
  IMHO you fall into the same category but are just
  more diplomatic and polite so far.

  cheers,

  battman